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Vindman — Trump should apologize to Zelensky and Vance should resign.
Twitter / X / Citizen's Free Press ^ | March 03, 2025 | Staff

Posted on 03/03/2025 6:22:22 AM PST by Red Badger

CRY LOUDER VINDMAN, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.pic.twitter.com/rID6oqCWxC— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) March 3, 2025



TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: fecklessmidget; greengrifter; littledictator; littlezimplodes; posturingmidget; vindman
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
The Logan Act basically puts a gag order on U.S. citizens, and is probably unconstitutional.

That's libertarian extremism. We are involved in a proxy war, saving American lives; and it's wartime. Even the SCOTUS recognized that you shouldn't yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater. If you take a job with the government, the government gets to require a speech code.

81 posted on 03/03/2025 11:49:04 AM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: dforest
I am starting to worry about the AG situation and where is Kash?

Ever tried to turn an ocean liner around in a hailstorm?

82 posted on 03/03/2025 11:50:20 AM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Nextrush
” Unfortunately, Ukrainian nationalists could end being the next “terrorist movement” threatening the lives of President Trump, Vice-President Vance and other officials.”

Probably the DemocRAT plan all along.

83 posted on 03/03/2025 11:55:42 AM PST by Redleg Duke (“Time to Play Cowboys and Snowflakes!”)
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To: Nextrush
Already in play: the golf course assassin was steeped in Ukraine kool-aide.

And it seems that his deepstate handler/financier was his CeeEyeAee affiliated wife.

84 posted on 03/03/2025 12:08:43 PM PST by Tellurian (Any cleverness from a democrat is quickly invested in deception)
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To: Albion Wilde

I know, good point. 🤪


85 posted on 03/03/2025 12:46:56 PM PST by dforest
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To: Red Badger

Didn’t I see Vindman and Vindman diddling with underage hamsters at an NPR party the other night?


86 posted on 03/03/2025 3:03:41 PM PST by mbarker12474
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To: mbarker12474

Gerbils......


87 posted on 03/03/2025 5:44:58 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Albion Wilde
If you take a job with the government, the government gets to require a speech code.

But these people aren't with the government. Private citizens. And we're not at actually war.

88 posted on 03/03/2025 8:32:35 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
But these people aren't with the government. Private citizens. And we're not at actually war.

All took the oath of office and swore loyalty to our Constitution when they did hold positions. Does that no longer count for anything? Do people get to work in high positions and learn classified info and then act as agents against our government? Obama still receives taxpayer-funded Secret Service protection.

And war has changed. Now, the idea is to dramatically wound your opposition one at a time, psychologically, financially, reputationally, virally and globally, but leave them alive and damage their families to endure it. Try to keep up. Was Vietnam not a war because the British rules of engagement or the Geneva Conventions were no longer being followed?

89 posted on 03/04/2025 6:32:25 AM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde
All took the oath of office and swore loyalty to our Constitution when they did hold positions. Does that no longer count for anything? Do people get to work in high positions and learn classified info and then act as agents against our government?

This cuts both ways. You have conservatives who used to work for the government and spoke out against the government when it was headed by Biden. Trump himself, while out of office, often spoke publicly against the Biden foreign policy and said what he'd do differently. If you use the Logan Act to criminalize what former Democratic officials do, the same thing will happen to Republicans. And none of those Republicans were charged with Logan Act violations by Biden because they knew the problem with it.

Second, you mentioned classified information, and IF someone with access to classified information discloses it, that is a separate crime that can be charged. The Logan Act has nothing to do with it.

90 posted on 03/04/2025 7:09:36 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: RoosterRedux
I wonder if he read the comments to his post at X. He is despised by nearly everyone.

These people have 0 self awareness.

91 posted on 03/04/2025 7:12:40 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“The government” is not always following the Constitution, which was the case with many of the Biden initiatives. So one cannot overgeneralize or assume moral equivalence about how either party criticizes “the government.”

The entire thrust of the Democrat Party is to “lberalize”, to color outside the lines, to make “progress” that they only define in terms of moving the society away from bedrock values and forcing people to transgress deeply held convictions that should be established by the voters, such as when 30 states defined marriage as being between a man and a woman, yet lib/prog judges overturned these measures in state after state. Just as lib/prog judges are pushing the envelope against Trump’s determination to set us back on our Constitutional foundations.


92 posted on 03/04/2025 7:58:07 AM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde
“The government” is not always following the Constitution, which was the case with many of the Biden initiatives. So one cannot overgeneralize or assume moral equivalence about how either party criticizes “the government.”

It isn't about moral equivalence -- it is about legal equivalent, and one of the fundamental tenets of free speech is that any restriction has to be content neutral. The Democrats have their own laundry list of GOP actions they believe are illegal/immoral/unconstitutional. And once you cross the line of essentially criminalizing dissent because you don't like their substantive views, that happens to both parties.

Fortunately, both parties understand that the Supreme Court would strike down efforts to go after political opponents via the Logan Act, so whether you think that should be the case or not doesn't matter.

93 posted on 03/04/2025 8:07:40 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
It isn't about moral equivalence -- it is about legal equivalent

There's the letter of the law, and then there's the spirti of said law...

94 posted on 03/11/2025 9:51:21 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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