[ClearCase_guy]

I’m not sure that anyone is playing 4D chess.
But, if someone is playing 4D chess ... it’s not Zelensky.

[Sacajaweau]

Yes....he actually laid it out a while back....said....we'll give them the land and stop the war...then we can join NATO and later...feign a squrmish and all the NATO countries will have to go after Russia and we will get our land back.

This came directly from "Z"....maybe 6 months ago. I'll find it...so don't hold me to it for now.

[Fzob]

What Zelenskyy does or did not understand was that Trump was willing to walk away.

[RoosterRedux]

Zelensky is an idiot. He picked a fight with the most powerful leader in the world, aligning himself with out-of-power Democrats and an out-of-touch and dying EU.

Zelensky just ensured Trump will further reduce support to Ukraine and further weaken NATO.

[Sacajaweau]

https://news.sky.com/story/zelenskyy-suggests-hes-prepared-to-end-ukraine-war-in-return-for-nato-membership-even-if-russia-doesnt-immediately-return-seized-land-13263085

[BroJoeK]

davikkm: "In fact, the U.S. was feverishly arming Ukraine even before the war began."

Naw, your "feverishly" is Russian propaganda, comrade.

In reality:

1. Beginning around 1991 the US sent aid to both Ukraine and Russia, circa $1 billion per year in today's values to Ukraine ($225 million then), nearly three times that amount to Russia.

2. Aid to Russia ended in the early 2000s, after Vladimir Putin came to power, but continued to Ukraine at the same $ levels until 2014.

3. After Russia's 2014 invasions of Ukraine, US aid doubled to circa $450 million per year where it remained until Russia's invasions of 2022, when it increased to over $100 billion per year.

4. There was always some military assistance in US aid to Ukraine, but after Putin's 2014 invasions, Pres. Obama sent Ukraine only blankets and MREs.
   Pres. Trump sent Javelins and Stingers, which did prove instrumental in Ukraine's early 2022 victories over Russian invasion forces.

So, "feverishly", naw... never.
But steadily for over 34 years, increasing after each new Russian invasion.

[Andy from Chapel Hill]

Nothing happens unless Trump says so.

Z needs to realize that.

And, if Trump says “your term expired last year and we do not recognize you as a legitimate leader capable of signing anything” then that is the new reality.

[liberalh8ter]

I think the better question is: Did President Trump and VP Vance play Zelensky like a fiddle? They know what a deplorable little dictator he was but they have now exposed that to the World (while simultaneously pushing him off on Europe). Job well done!

[tinamina]

This is what Tony Shaffer said happened. That the UK had already made a deal for the minerals etc with Zelinski before Donald Trump was inaugurated.
Trump knew it before the meeting.
https://x.com/t_s_p_o_o_k_y/status/1896234070230937771?s=61

[meyer]

Zelenskyy’s plan is whatever his globalist masters tell him it is. Understand that they want WW3 and the extermination of a good portion of the earth’s people (excluding themselves, of course).

[metmom]

Sounds entirely feasible in my book.

[Georgia Girl 2]

Its fun,fun,fun til Daddy takes the T-Bird away. 😏

[If You Want It Fixed - Fix It]

He is SO smart. The first part of his plan, to permit the loss of a million and a country collapse.....even Biden couldn’t do as well.

[Who is John Galt?]

One of the words that is being used to describe Zelenskyy is “stupid”, but the truth is that Zelenskyy is not stupid at all.

True - but his fans sure are stupid. He had legions of dumb-as-a-rock fans when he was playing the piano, and the same is true today...

;^)

[grumpygresh]

After reading the article, he’s still stupid. Trying to get US and or Euro troops to defend Ukraine is perilous to say the least. Yes he understands TDS is a dog whistle for Euros and US leftists. So what. Trump will never send US troops and I doubt he’ll give Ukraine a nickel more. The Euros are sending money but with not enough zeros and if they send troops, the anti war populists could topple their governments.
Cuts in social spending, sending troops to Ukraine, the Euros won’t tolerate that. If the Euros want to keep NATO intact, they had better stay out of Ukraine because the US won’t follow them into the abyss.
Now this “genius” has made the US into an enemy.
At this point, a Putin puppet in Ukraine would be better.
I wonder what Trump on Tuesday will say now that it’s evident that Z wants more money and more war.

[NCVA]

He can be a knucklehead. That’s for sure.

[Faith65]

bfl

[Biblebelter]

Frankly the little fella isn’t smart enough to have a plan.

He’s not an adult.

He wants what he wants and will do whatever he thinks in that moment is necessary to get what he wants.

That is child psychology 101.

Reports that this child had enablers such as the usual Deep State bad actors only emboldened the child to act out.

Give Team Trump credit they revealed him for the ungrateful spoiled brat that he was.

They also disowned him and his now under the guardianship of the Euroweenies who have no business with sole custody of a problem child such as Zelenskyy.

[ballplayer]

What’s left of the population you fool

[packrat35]

Since he literally flew to the UK and collected a check the next day and today says the war has a long long way to go, then yes!