Proposed National Reciprocity on Concealed Carry, Specifics of S.65

AmmoLand ^ | January13, 2025 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

On January 9, 2025, Senator John Cornyn (R TX) and Senator John Kennedy (R LA) introduced a national reciprocity bill.  The bill requires all states to allow people who may legally carry concealed handguns in their state of residence to carry concealed handguns in other states. A picture ID would be required to verify the residency of the person who is carrying a concealed handgun. From the press release of Senator Kennedy:

This legislation would:

• Allow individuals with concealed carry privileges in their home states to exercise those rights in any other state that has concealed carry laws.
• Treat state-issued concealed carry permits like drivers’ licenses, allowing an individual to use his or her home-state license to drive in another state while abiding by the speed limit of whatever state that person is in.

The official text of S65 has not, as of this writing, been published in the Congressional record.  Senator Grassley (R Iowa) links to a copy of the proposed text. This correspondent will assume the text is accurate for the purposes of this analysis.

There are 43 sponsors and co-sponsors of the proposed bill. It is a good start.  The bill may need to overcome a filibuster. 60 votes are needed to overcome a filibuster. Of the 100 senators, 58 come from states with Constitutional Carry. The other 32 states have some form of shall issue carry. Only 20 senators come from states that are actively resisting the Supreme Court to deny people the right to carry outside the home.  There is a reasonable possibility for the bill to overcome a filibuster.

The bill provides two cases where individuals must be allowed to carry concealed handguns in states where they do not reside. The two cases are:

[marktwain]

In this version of national reciprocity, if you can legally concealed carry in the state of your residence, you can legally carry in any state or US territory which allows for legal concealed carry.

[sauropod]

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[Ikeon]

New York, Washington, Minnesota, California, Michigan, Illinois, Pennsylvania, deleware, Connecticut, North Carolina, etc. Are never going to ratify this.

These states feel like Israel and the rest of the U.S. is Gaza.

We are NOT the UNITED States anymore.

[marktwain]

The votes of states who are fighting to void the Second Amendment are not necessary to pass the bill.

There are already court cases in at least three states challenging the state authority to prevent residents of other states from exercising rights protected by the Second Amendment in a state where they do not reside.

[JesusIsLord]

The Bill of Rights list our irrefutable 'rights' not some 'privileges' decided by government.

The questions I ask are: (1) Why in most states is it illegal to conceal carry without a permit? (2) Why aren't conceal weapon restriction (required permits, etc.) considered an infringement of 2A?

[Sacajaweau]

Should have ALWAYS been so.

[marktwain]

Most states (29) do not require a permit to carry concealed.

Restrictions on concealed carry are being challenged in the Courts.

So far, the Supreme Court has decided, if there is a permit required, the ability to obtain the permit cannot be subjective or burdensome.

This is, in part, because there were early laws, before the civil war, banning concealed carry of weapons.

A direct attack on any requirement for a permit to carry has not yet been brought before the Supreme Court.

[Gay State Conservative]

My driver's license is accepted in every one of the other 49 states,in DC,and all US territories. I've even used it in Canada,Great Britain,,Australia and the United Arab Emirates.

And yet no LTC other than one issued in Massachusetts is "legal" in Massachusetts under state laws.

A clear violation of 2A...as well as other laws.

[marktwain]

“Should have ALWAYS been so.”

Governments are ALWAYS looking to accrue more power and erode freedom.

[marktwain]

https://www.ammoland.com/2024/08/massachusetts-cross-border-carry-case-receives-new-support/

[Gay State Conservative]

Unlike some...including many here on FR...I don't believe that *everyone* should be allowed access to firearms in this country. For example,I'd support a national minimum age. Sixteen perhaps.I'd also support a law restricting access to US citizens. I'd support a law restricting access to those convicted of certain types of crimes. Also,people with certain medical conditions...Parkinson's Disease for example...shouldn't have guns. People with certain psychiatric disorders...schizophrenia for example...shouldn't have guns.

But apart from that there should be no restrictions.

[NY.SS-Bar9]

This isn’t a constitutional amendment that requires ratification.

Just 60 votes to overcome a filibuster.

[6ppc]

Speed limit bit may be a problem for me.🤠

[DCBryan1]

When these 1000 page bills come up, some enterprising conservative needs to add this little line:

18 USC 922(o) is hereby repealed.

[Gay State Conservative]

If you look at a recent SCOTUS case, "Caetano v Massachusetts",you see a woman who was convicted on a weapons charge under a state law. She appealed the conviction on 2A grounds through the state courts. Every one,including the state's highest court,upheld the conviction...ruling that the law didn't violate 2A rights.

Then it went to the Federal courts,eventually making its way to SCOTUS. The SCOTUS vote was 9-0...IN FAVOR OF CAETANO. In their opinion they stated that the state Supreme Court's reasoning in declaring that the law didn't violate one's 2A rights was "frivolous".

IOW...there's no way that the state legislature will ever vote to ease our state gun laws (our legislature is 95% Rat and our Governor is a bull dyke whore)...and there's not a state court in this state that will do anything to overturn any of our state gun laws.

[mewzilla]

Meanwhile, from NYS...

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/A2228

Assembly Bill A2228
2025-2026 Legislative Session
Relates to criminal history background checks for the purchase of three-dimensional printers capable of creating firearms

[Mathews]

I have a CPL from North Carolina. It cost me about $400 bucks to get. Classroom fees and licensing fees...

[Gay State Conservative]

You think you have it bad? Here in Massachusetts you're interviewed by a cop to determine “suitability” (my word). You just about about had to give the cop a Lewinsky to get his OK (I applied before Bruen and one or two other SCOTUS decisions).

[Salman]

Not too bad, but how about the constitution being in force in *all* the states (”constitutional carry”).

[ptsal]

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