Please provide the posts in which I diligently praise and promote Russia and its leaders, or any other country for that matter.
BTW, what does "original founding fathers" mean? Weren't all the Founders "original"?
Posted on 12/20/2024 7:08:21 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Without them, there would be no United States of America: The Founding Fathers, a group of predominantly wealthy plantation owners and businessmen, united 13 disparate colonies, fought for independence from Britain and penned a series of influential governing documents that steer the country to this day. All the Founding Fathers, including the first four U.S. presidents, at one point considered themselves British subjects. But they revolted against the restrictive rule of King George III—outlining their grievances in the Declaration of Independence, a powerful (albeit incomplete) call for freedom and equality—and won a stunning military victory over what was then the world’s preeminent superpower.
The Founders proved equally adept later on in peacetime. When the federal government tottered under the Articles of Confederation, prominent citizens met again to hammer out the U.S. Constitution, overcoming major areas of disagreement between large and small states and Southern and Northern ones to form a stable political system. Showing foresight, they included a Bill of Rights, which enshrined many civil liberties into law and provided a blueprint for other emerging democracies.
There’s no official consensus on who should be considered a Founding Father, and some historians object to the term altogether. On the whole, though, it’s applied to those leaders who initiated the Revolutionary War and framed the Constitution. Here are eight of the most influential characters in America’s origin story.
(Excerpt) Read more at history.com ...
1. George Washington
2. Alexander Hamilton
3. Benjamin Franklin
4. John Adams
5. Samuel Adams
6. Thomas Jefferson
7. James Madison
8. John Jay
9. Additional Founders
We’re not a democracy. Stop saying it.
FOUNDING FATHER FACTOIDS WITH COMPARISON TO 2024
1. George Washington
Once the Revolutionary War broke out in 1775, he was placed in charge of the Continental Army. More defeats followed—all in all, with Washington losing more battles than he won. Nonetheless, he kept his ragtag troops together even through a freezing winter at Valley Forge and, with the help of his French allies, was able to expel the British by 1783.
He re-entered politics as head of the Constitutional Convention In 1789, Washington was overwhelmingly elected the first president of the United States.
2. Alexander Hamilton
Alexander Hamilton emigrated as a teenager from the British West Indies to New York. Rising to prominence as an aide-de-camp to Washington during the Revolutionary War,
After attending the Constitutional Convention in 1787, he wrote the majority of the highly persuasive Federalist Papers, which argued for the Constitution’s ratification. Washington then tapped him to serve as the first U.S. treasury secretary, a position he used to push for the creation of a national bank.
3. Benjamin Franklin
Early America’s foremost Renaissance man, Benjamin Franklin was a skilled author, printer, scientist, inventor and diplomat, despite a formal education that ended at age 10. When not designing bifocals, harnessing electricity, playing music or publishing Poor Richard’s Almanack, he worked constantly on civic projects to improve his adopted city of Philadelphia.
4. John Adams
A distinguished Massachusetts lawyer, John Adams became an relatively early supporter of the revolutionary cause. vice president under Washington. Following Washington’s two terms, he was then elected president, serving from 1797 to 1801. Incidently, Adams and his friend-turned-rival-turned-friend Thomas Jefferson both died on the same day, July 4,
5. Samuel Adams
Second cousin of John Adams, Samuel Adams was a political firebrand who drummed up immense opposition to British policies in Boston, a hotbed of the resistance. Believing that the colonists were subject to “taxation without representation,” he joined the Sons of Liberty, an underground dissident group that at times resorted to tarring and feathering British loyalists.
6. Thomas Jefferson
Well educated and prosperous, Thomas Jefferson was a Virginia lawyer and politician who came to believe the British Parliament held no authority over the 13 colonies. In 1776, he was the primary author of the Declaration of Independence. American statesman, planter, diplomat, lawyer, architect, philosopher, and Founding Father who served as the third president of the United States from 1801 to 1809.[6] He was the primary author of the Declaration of Independence. Following the American Revolutionary War and before becoming president in 1801, Jefferson was the nation’s first U.S. secretary of state under George Washington. As secretary of state under Washington, Jefferson clashed constantly with Alexander Hamilton over foreign policy and the role of government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson
7. James Madison
Close friend of Jefferson, James Madison likewise grew up on a Virginia plantation and served in the state legislature. At the 1787 Constitutional Convention, he was perhaps the most influential delegate. He developed a plan to divide the federal government into three branches—legislative, executive and judicial—each with checks and balances on its power. This earned him the moniker “Father of the Constitution.”
Madison also co-authored the Federalist Papers. As a U.S. congressman, he became the driving force behind the Bill of Rights. Later, he was elected president in 1808 after serving as Jefferson’s secretary of state.
8. John Jay
John Jay nonetheless played a pivotal role in the creation of the United States. A lawyer, he originally preferred reconciling with Britain rather than fighting for independence. Once war broke out, however, he wholeheartedly joined the side of the colonists, serving, among other roles, as a diplomat to Spain and linking up with Franklin and Adams to negotiate the Treaty of Paris.
Upon returning to the United States, Jay served as secretary of foreign affairs under the Articles of Confederation and authored a few of the Federalist Papers. In 1789, he became the first chief justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, and six years later he was elected governor of New York
9. Additional Founders
* https://www.history.com/topics/american-revolution/founding-fathers-united-states
What we now are is a giant unmanageable blob of graft and dysfunction. The overbearing central government dominates everything but it manages nothing effectively.
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2024- PONDER OUR LEADERS TODAY: Political Reformation Leaders of the U.S.A.
1. George Washington - Donald Trump
2. Alexander Hamilton - Scott Bessent
Chosen to be Secretary of Treasury. Economic issues are a high priority shareing Trump’s views on trade tariffs on foreign imports
3. Benjamin Franklin - Elon Musk
Entrepreneur Elon Musk is the richest person in the world. His companies include SpaceX, Tesla Motors, and social media site X. Elon Musk supported Donald Trump throughout his 2024 presidential campaign. Donald Trump to co-lead the Department of Government Efficiency, a new advisory panel with entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy.
4. John Adams - Vivek Ramaswamy
Vivek Ramaswamy American biotech entrepreneur gained national attention running for the Republican candidate in the 2024. U.S. presidential election.
He first gained notice for his outspoken opposition to environment, social, and governance (ESG) investing. He suspended his campaign and endorsed the winner Donald Trump. The resident-elect Donald Trump announced Ramaswamy and his friend Elon Musk would head the Department of Government Efficiency.
* https://www.britannica.com/biography/Vivek-Ramaswamy
5. Samuel Adams - Howard Lutnick
Howard Lutnick selected as Secretary of Commerce to manage U.S. Department of the Treasury by: shaping fiscal policy, managing federal finances, and addressing economic challenges.
FOCUS:
• Tax Reform: Advocating for policies that support businesses and stimulate economic growth.
• Deregulation: Reducing regulatory burdens on industries to foster innovation and competitiveness.
• Debt Management: Addressing the growing national debt while balancing the need for federal investment.
• International Trade: Leveraging his global financial expertise to negotiate favorable trade agreements and address international economic challenges.
* https://knowinsiders.com/who-is-howard-lutnick-from-orphan-to-billionaire-treasury-secretary-41185.html
6. Thomas Jefferson - JD Vance *James David Vance
Vice president–elect in 2024. He graduated from Ohio State University in 2009 with a degree in political science and philosophy. He granduated from Yale Law School in 2013. Vance served in the U.S. Marine and also then worked as a corporate lawyer and venture capitalist.
Republican U.S. Senator JD Vance represented Ohio since 2023. Now, he is the vice president–elect with 2024 presidential winner Donald Trump.
Vance served in the U.S. Marine Corps prior to his graduation from Yale Law School in 2013 then worked as a corporate lawyer and venture capitalist.
7. James Madison - Kristi Noem
The Department of Homeland Security has responsibility for law enforcement and implementation of policies agency that oversees everything from US Customs and Border Protection and Immigration and Customs Enforcement to the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
Kristi Noem will help the U.S. government to prevent and manage national security threats. She has taken hardline positions on immigration has called for punishment of ‘sanctuary cities and states ‘ that protect undocumented immigrants and not cooperating with federal agencies
8. John Jay - Pam Bondi
The Attorney General is in charge of the Department of Justice Responsibilities: The Attorney General is in charge of the Department of Justice, which handles criminal prosecutions and enforces federal laws. Immigration is one of the areas managed by the Department of Justice.
9. Additional Founders
… “the young REPUBLIC!”
“What we now are is a giant unmanageable blob of graft and dysfunction.”
Agree.
Yet, I am an optimist. These will be our selected leaders today to regenerate the vision of the Founding Fathers,
After diligently praising and promoting the Ukrainian government and its leadership for almost 3 years now, your newfound interest in America and its Founders is amusing.
‘the young REPUBLIC’
I pray for the dream of the will be re-established & continue to be so in the future.
Ditto.
TYPO CORRECTION
I pray for the dream of the U.S.A. FOUNDERS will be re-established & continue to be so in the future.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/4285551/posts?page=9#9
“We’re not a democracy.”
To your point, I agree.
However, I can also appreciate this excerpt:
“The short answer is that democracy and republic are frequently used to mean the same thing: a government in which the people vote for their leaders. This was the important distinction at the time of the founding of the United States, in direct contrast with the rule of a king, or monarchy, in Great Britain. In part because that context was clear to everyone involved in the American Revolution, these terms were used interchangeably in the late 1700s. Both democracy and republic meant that the power to govern was held by the people rather than a monarch.
At the same time, it’s true that there is nuance and difference between these words, according to their historical use and etymology: democracy comes from the Greek roots meaning “rule by the people,” and the most basic understanding of the word’s original meaning refers to the direct democracy of ancient Greece.
Republic comes from the Latin roots meaning “public good” or “public affair,” used in ancient Rome to mean simply “state” or “country” with reference to the representative democracy of the Roman Republic. The elected representatives in Congress are a contemporary example of this kind of government.”
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/democracy-and-republic
Please provide the posts in which I diligently praise and promote Russia and its leaders, or any other country for that matter.
BTW, what does "original founding fathers" mean? Weren't all the Founders "original"?
One thing you must keep in mind, is that words have meaning, and when you substitute another word, people start to misunderstand what the true differences are.
That is why I will always reject a statement saying we are a Democracy, & use the correct word for what this nation actually is.
They went with a CONSTITUTIONAL Republic.
One thing you must keep in mind, is that words have meaning, and when you substitute another word, people start to misunderstand what the true differences are.
Indeed.
What we now are
We now may be in the middle of another revolution, with good leadership rising to the top as then. We can’t sit back and let others fight.
And folks, stop criticizing trump for losses. Focus on the wins. We are having a lot of small wins and there will be more if we support the leadership.
Many here would not have supported GW.
"Because democracy is an abstract name for a system and republic is the more concrete result of that system, democracy is frequently used when the emphasis is on the system itself. We could say that democracy is to republic as monarchy is to kingdom.
"These terms are not mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, a document that nevertheless expresses clearly that governments should be established “deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.” This reads like a definition of both democracy and republic. In Article IV Section IV of the Constitution, the term republican is used as an adjective: “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government.”
"In the final analysis, what these words share in meaning is much more important than how they differ."
Source: Merriam-Webster
It is an interesting thing that Merriam-Webster ends its definition with "in the final analysis...." Why?
Because Merriam-Webster changes definitions per the changing political climate. Case in point:
"Merriam-Webster now offers a second definition of 'female': 'having a gender identity that is the opposite of male.' And a second definition of 'male': 'having a gender identity that is the opposite of female'.”
Source: Merriam-Webster Expands the Definition of ‘Female’ National Review, 20 July 2022.
That NR article then goes on to mention Matt Walsh's rather iconic tweet:
Words. Who controls them? From Lewis Carroll to George Orwell, the notions of controlling words is "the thing."
As severely diminished Biden used to say, 'you know the thing...."
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