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"Oreshnik" Enters The Chat
Black Mountain Analysis Substack ^

Posted on 11/26/2024 8:55:19 AM PST by Tench_Coxe

A recent Russian missile attack followed shortly after Ukraine got approval to use US and NATO-made weapons on Russian territory. Not even a day after Biden approved the use of ATACMS, six were launched, followed by Storm Shadows and SCALPS. President Putin didn't wait for long to respond. A new missile entered into the Ukrainian chat. It was believed and speculated that the dramatic hits were by an intercontinental ballistic missile RS-26 Rubezh or one of its modifications. But it was something new, used in anger for the first time: Oreshnik (Hazel). President Putin said this was the first time a weapon like this had ever been used.

One US official stated that Russia warned them of the strike shortly before the attack on Dnipro. The information came likely through the nuclear risk reduction channels, and Dmitry Peskov also confirmed the 30-minute warning.

The missile launch was detected from the Astrakhan region, about 1.000 km from Dnipro. The launch was during ongoing missile and drone attacks at the time. US intelligence likely warned Kiev about the attack.

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Nobody can say for sure what may happen down the road, but there is a space for hypothetical scenarios. One possibility is that those enterprises that produce Storm Shadow and SCALPs are now well within the Oreshnik range. Just two missiles are enough to render them inoperable indefinitely. The attacks may come during the night to avoid any civilian casualties. These enterprises do not work 24/7.

NATO logistics hubs and depots are also within range. Oreshniks may not even be necessary if sabotage happens, but leaders of those ex-colonial states have a chance to steer away from WW3, which is just around the corner. The next few months until Biden's administration is gone will be critical.

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Found this writeup fairly interesting.

Couple of thoughts:
The Lindsey Grahams of the world who think they can ride out hostilities in a bunker while everyone else gets hammered might want to reconsider their premises.

And a thought for the neocons/Deep Staters I've been mulling over: given the election of November 5th, and the sentiment I suspect is behind it--if you get the war you seem to be so hellbent in getting, who is going to fight it for you?
And God forbid you spur a new (and different type) anti-war movement.

1 posted on 11/26/2024 8:55:19 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Tench_Coxe
It was a demonstration/warning in response to the USA supplying ATCMS missiles to Ukraine and giving them the green light to launch them deep into Russia.

We have been warned.

2 posted on 11/26/2024 8:59:43 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: Tench_Coxe

When was the last Civil Defense drill for members of Congress?

1950s perhaps....


3 posted on 11/26/2024 9:01:21 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: Tench_Coxe

The elites and Deep Staters hiding out in bunkers is a silly adventure. It’s possible they could ride out nuclear devastation, but bunkers and the like are death traps. They only work if your side is winning.

Even if you have the capability of living comfortably and safely in a bunker, it’s going to get really boring after several weeks and they are going to want to come out. Even if they don’t come out, the enemy troops or surviving population will figure out where the bunkers are, get in them and kill the inhabitants.

Saddam and Hitler had bunkers and the outcome for them was not so good.

My point is, those wanting WWIII will not survive it any more than the average person. To want WWIII is just pure insanity. But then again the left has never been accused of being sane.


4 posted on 11/26/2024 9:07:43 AM PST by redfreedom (May God save us from what the Democrats do in the name of good.)
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To: cgbg

When was the last civil defense drill for anyone in the US? Where are the public fallout shelters in your community?

People prepping and/or building bunkers today are still classified as lunatics by the majority.


5 posted on 11/26/2024 9:11:10 AM PST by redfreedom (May God save us from what the Democrats do in the name of good.)
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To: redfreedom

When you emerge from your bunker you will find the entire industrial capacity of the nation dead. There will be no products to buy. No fuel, no food, no medicine...nothing. And the enemy doesn’t need to strike all the factories making those products, either. It just needs to hit the electric power plants and refineries. Without power and fuel, everything grinds to a halt.

The “One Second After” book is an apocalyptical look at what happens after an EMP attack. But “conventional” nuclear attacks on power and fuel production would have the same effect.

The notion of surviving the attack in a bunker is ridiculous because eventually you will emerge to a completely broken world that would take a couple of centuries to restore to working order.


6 posted on 11/26/2024 9:15:21 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Republicans are the party that says ‘Government doesn’t work.’ Then they get elected and prove it.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Agreed. The aftermath will be similar to those zombie movies. But instead of the living dead chasing survivors, there will be survivors chasing other survivors that have food, medicine and fuel. It’s not going to be a picnic.


7 posted on 11/26/2024 9:18:28 AM PST by redfreedom (May God save us from what the Democrats do in the name of good.)
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To: redfreedom

I think because most people know by now that any amount of prepping or building bunkers isn’t going to save you from dying in a nuclear war.


8 posted on 11/26/2024 9:22:41 AM PST by SeanS
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To: redfreedom

“...there will be survivors chasing other survivors that have food, medicine and fuel.”

That was the main event in “One Second After.” People with chronic medical problems who depend on modern pharmaceuticals will die quickly. Marauding gangs will quickly form and it will be the law of the jungle in short order. People who have prepped and stockpiled food and fuel will be the immediate targets of the marauders and won’t survive the hungry mobs descending on them.

Complete societal breakdown with no ability to restore order will be very ugly. The weak and infirm will die very fast.

Overnight “toxic masculinity” will become a desirable trait and everybody will be lining up behind the most TOXIC MASCULINE guys.


9 posted on 11/26/2024 9:26:52 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Republicans are the party that says ‘Government doesn’t work.’ Then they get elected and prove it.)
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To: Tench_Coxe

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10 posted on 11/26/2024 9:32:56 AM PST by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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To: Tench_Coxe

These were MRBMs, medium range as opposed to ICBMs, but still plenty dangerous. You can see from the videos that they are extremely fast and MIRVed. These are designed for nuclear warheads.


11 posted on 11/26/2024 9:52:36 AM PST by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: Tench_Coxe

FAFO


12 posted on 11/26/2024 10:06:30 AM PST by tballard56
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To: redfreedom
"Crazy is building your ark after the flood has already come."

- Howard Stambler

13 posted on 11/26/2024 12:46:49 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Take out communications, transportation...

...the rest takes care of itself.

Ironically, it’s one way to get rid of 3/4 of the leftists...


14 posted on 11/26/2024 12:49:47 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

When you emerge from your bunker you will find the entire industrial capacity of the nation dead. There will be no products to buy. No fuel, no food, no medicine...nothing. And the enemy doesn’t need to strike all the factories making those products, either. It just needs to hit the electric power plants and refineries. Without power and fuel, everything grinds to a halt.
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If you survive, you will wish you would have taken a direct hit and death would have been mercilessly swift.


15 posted on 11/26/2024 1:06:36 PM PST by iontheball
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To: iontheball

“you will wish you would have taken a direct hit and death would have been mercilessly swift.”

Exactly.


16 posted on 11/26/2024 1:43:25 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Republicans are the party that says ‘Government doesn’t work.’ Then they get elected and prove it.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yep....I’d say so. A warning Biden and his warmongering hangers on had better remember these last two months before January 20.


17 posted on 11/26/2024 1:45:33 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
We have been warned.

We have been warned what? That some of Russia's missiles actually do work?
18 posted on 11/26/2024 1:54:55 PM PST by Svartalfiar (-)
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To: Svartalfiar

correct.


19 posted on 11/26/2024 4:06:48 PM PST by Z28.310 (does not comply well with others)
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To: iontheball

Sun Tzu - An evil enemy, will burn his own nation to the ground… to rule over the ashes.


20 posted on 11/26/2024 5:14:25 PM PST by Vehmgericht
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