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Matt Gaetz Withdrawal: Why It Happened, and What Comes Next
Red State ^ | 11/21/2024 | Bonchie

Posted on 11/21/2024 3:43:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind

When Matt Gaetz was announced as Donald Trump's nominee for Attorney General, I was immediately skeptical. Not because I had anything personally against him, but because I just couldn't make the math work out as far as getting confirmed. Sure enough, Gaetz has withdrawn his bid, saying that he did not want to become a distraction for an incoming Trump administration that needs to hit the ground running.

To those worried about what comes next, my message is simple: Relax.

This very well could be for the best, and I'm going to explain why. First, though, let's discuss why the whole "recess appointment" thing so many people were talking about didn't happen (and why it's almost certainly not going to happen for any other major nominee either).

There was a fundamental misunderstanding of how recess appointments work, even in the press. Neither House Speaker Mike Johnson nor soon-to-be Senate Majority Leader John Thune had the power to call a recess and force through a nomination. While they both indicated they would allow that to happen, that was never the question because it wasn't up to them.

Instead, it would have taken a full vote by both chambers to recess. In the House, that can happen with a simple majority. In the Senate, a recess vote can be filibustered, making 60 votes the threshold. What that means is that Democrats and the Republicans who opposed Gaetz could easily block any attempt at a recess appointment.

But what about the theory that Trump could force a recess with executive power? That would have also been precarious because the Constitutional language specifically applies to a disagreement between the chambers on when to recess. To trigger that, you would first need both chambers to vote to recess on different days. That wasn't going to happen. It's also worth noting that three of the five conservative justices on the Supreme Court have already made it clear they believe recess appointments are unconstitutional, which means any challenge would have likely succeeded given the makeup of the court.

There just wasn't a plausible path for Gaetz to become a recess appointment, and whatever one thinks about his baggage, it was weighing him down to the point where a confirmation became increasingly in doubt. Practically speaking, the Trump transition team had to make a move, and that move was made.

With all that said, Trump will likely come out a winner in the end. Gaetz stepping aside has no doubt bought some goodwill with some wishy-washy GOP senators, and that will be needed to get some of these other nominees through. If you want Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to become head of Health and Human Services, that's more possible now.

Further, Trump needs a clean fight over his nominees. There's simply no time to waste on a drawn-out, scandal-ridden nomination process. I'm not arguing that is fair, but fairness really has nothing to do with this situation. Politics is the art of the possible, and with Democrats likely to retake the House in two years, the time to strike is now. That means getting people in place as quickly as possible who have the know-how to truly reform these various agencies.

It's going to take a surgeon to fix the DOJ because the deep state will not go quietly or easily, and there are some very good options out there that may be better in the long run. Missouri AG Andrew Bailey (R-MO), who has led many major conservative legal battles over the last few years, was already in consideration for the job and would be excellent. Others have mentioned Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT), who has the experience and the motivation to tear things down. Sen. Eric Schmitt (R-MO) checks every box, too, if he's willing to consider taking the job.

All of this is going to work out, and I don't see Trump going soft on his promise to fundamentally change the DOJ. Whoever is nominated next will be on board with that pursuit, and I'm confident heads will still roll. This is just a minor detour, and it's better it happened now than after Trump takes office.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: ag; doj; mattgaetz; pambondi; withdrawal
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1 posted on 11/21/2024 3:43:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The quislings who were hard no’s.

Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Markwayne Mullin (R-OH)
Sen.-elect John Curtis (R-UT)


2 posted on 11/21/2024 3:48:29 PM PST by bleach (Donaldus Magnus 2024-2028 A.D.)
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To: bleach

There could be a possibility that DeSantis might appoint him as Senator. Now wouldn’t that be pleasant for the hard no’s when they have to see him every day.


3 posted on 11/21/2024 3:50:19 PM PST by Enterprise (These people have no honor, no belief, no poetry, no art, no humor, no patriotism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I never considered Gaetz to be a serious appointee. I find him entertaining, but he’s a self-aggrandizing clown who made a name for himself by letting his mouth write checks his ass could not cover.


4 posted on 11/21/2024 3:51:18 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Well, maybe I'm a little rough around the edges; inside a little hollow.” -- Tom Petty, “Rebels”)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.lerctr.org/~transit/healy/algoof.wav


5 posted on 11/21/2024 3:53:36 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Back when I started my career, we used to have the saying, "Throw mud against the wall and see what sticks."

Trump does this.

Gaetz didn't stick but that doesn't mean that his appointment by Trump was without effect.

Gaetz might have made it. But by putting Gaetz forward as an AG appointee, Trump got a feel for what the Senate will accept and what it won't accept.

It was suggested today that Gaetz may return to his job in the House. That is not a clear cut matter.

6 posted on 11/21/2024 3:54:39 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Jordan Peterson: If you think evil men are dangerous, wait til you see what weak men are capable of.)
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To: Enterprise

👍

Yeah. Super smart and strategic move.

Maybe a Supreme Court nomination? Maybe Gaetz for president in 28?

Failing upwards always works.


7 posted on 11/21/2024 3:54:49 PM PST by Fuzz
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To: RoosterRedux

He should go back to the house. He won. There he’ll continue to torment Trump’s enemies. ‘I ain’t goin’ away’ sounds right.


8 posted on 11/21/2024 3:56:33 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: SeekAndFind

What happened to recess appointments? What happened to the 210 day temporary appointment option?


9 posted on 11/21/2024 3:58:57 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: bleach

Markwayne Mullin is from OK, not OH.


10 posted on 11/21/2024 4:09:13 PM PST by BB62
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To: Alberta's Child

he kind of give me a vibe.


11 posted on 11/21/2024 4:11:17 PM PST by Leep (Re-elect deep state. 2024!)
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To: Leep

gives


12 posted on 11/21/2024 4:11:32 PM PST by Leep (Re-elect deep state. 2024!)
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To: BB62

That was a Gateway Pundit error. Live in so I knew better.


13 posted on 11/21/2024 4:41:57 PM PST by bleach (Donaldus Magnus 2024-2028 A.D.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Both are still options.


14 posted on 11/21/2024 4:43:37 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Something to think about regardimg the writer...you don't see Bondi in the article as a possible choice, do you?
🤔
15 posted on 11/21/2024 4:47:46 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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BAH! regardimng
16 posted on 11/21/2024 4:49:58 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump will find him a job that doesn’t require confirmation.


17 posted on 11/21/2024 4:50:22 PM PST by philippa
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To: SeekAndFind
REALLY sux to take this LOSS to the deep state and RINOs right out of the box. Not looking good.
18 posted on 11/21/2024 4:52:23 PM PST by A strike (death to taggers)
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To: Alberta's Child

Absurd comment.


19 posted on 11/21/2024 4:57:07 PM PST by Jonny7797
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To: Enterprise
There could be a possibility that DeSantis might appoint him as Senator.

I doubt it. DeSantis signed a strong anti-Semitism hate crime bill in Florida, whereas Gaetz opposed a similar bill on the federal level.

20 posted on 11/21/2024 5:09:20 PM PST by Angelino97
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