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Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings (Part 1) – The Left Spins Another Yarn to Trash the Founders
Flopping Aces ^ | 10-06-24 | Brother Bob

Posted on 10/09/2024 9:14:29 AM PDT by Starman417

In the efforts of the Progressive Left to destroy the legacy and monumental contributions of Thomas Jefferson, a centerpiece has been the focus on his presumed relationship with Sally Hemings, a slave at Monticello.  The charge goes that Jefferson had a long-term relationship with Sally Hemings, and had six children with her. In spite of the fact that there is very little evidence to support this rather dubious hypothesis, the tours at Monticello and the University of Virginia state this as a fact.  As it turns out, this is probably not at all true.

One of the problems with the fact that the Progressive Left has taken over the tours here, as at many other historic sites, is that instead of celebrating the phenomenal achievements of the Founding Fathers, every detail, no matter how inconsequential,  is often twisted into negative criticism and character assassination.

It does seem as though the Progressive Left is willing to go to any length in order to attack Jefferson’s character.  For example, recently a modern bathroom was torn out at Monticello and revealed a small room behind, that had not been previously known.  This was immediately interpreted by the Left as a secret bedroom for Sally Hemings to be able to carry on her liaison with Thomas Jefferson, although there was not a single vestige of objective evidence to suggest that this was so.  Cooler heads prevailed, however, and it was eventually understood to be simply another slave room.

The one piece of objective evidence is as follows: in 1998, the Thomas Jefferson Foundation ran a DNA study and found that there was a match between the Jeffersonian DNA and that of the line of Sally Hemings. They concluded that Thomas Jefferson was likely the father of her six children.

However, the Thomas Jefferson Heritage Society stated almost immediately that “they had skepticism to the convictions of this untruth.”

Next was a 1998 article in “Nature”, citing the DNA evidence. However, there was a retraction by the same magazine two months later. “The title of our study was misleading in that it represented only the simplest explanation of our molecular findings”, as they put it.

Then, “DNA testing by the Thomas Jefferson Society in 1999 suggested that TJ’s younger brother Randolph, rather than Thomas, was the most likely father of Sally Hemings’ sons.”  There was considerable evidence that Randolph had been having relations with some of the female slaves.

In 2001 and again in 2011, the Thomas Jefferson Heritage Society also reached different conclusions from the 1998 article. Based on contemporary witnesses, they concluded for one thing, that Hemings was a “minor figure” to Thomas Jefferson, and it was very unlikely that he had fathered any of her children.  They suggested that, in, fact it was much more likely his younger brother, Randolph, who was the father of at least some of her children.

Herbert Barder, a Jeffersonian scholar, after exhaustive research, concluded that Jefferson was “NOT the father of Easton Hemings or any other of Hemings’ children. The DNA study along with historical information indicates that Randolph is possibly the father of Easton and maybe the others.”

Pulitzer Prize Historian James Truslow Adams wrote- “Almost every scandalous story about Jefferson—can be trusted to be lies.”

Professor Andrew Holochak also agreed that evidence supports the conclusion that Randolph is most likely the father.  Three of the Hemings’ children were given names from Randolph’s family. Randolph, as it turns out, was a notorious alcoholic.

Danielle Darling, a former Monticello slave, Isaac Jefferson, recalled in 1947 that Randolph Jefferson “used to come out among Black people and dance half the night.”  By contrast, there are no reports that Jefferson had any social interaction with the slaves, either at Monticello, or elsewhere.

Paris

Another “proof” put forth by the Progressive Left is that, during the five years Jefferson served as Ambassador to France, he had Sally Hemings come with him to Paris, as his mistress.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: foundingfathers; jefferson; ohjuststop; sallyhemings; skinheads; thomasjefferson
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To: Starman417

The truth is we don’t know. The facts are, there is a genetic tie to the Jefferson family. The lie is to create a fact where none exists (pick the Jefferson you wish to be related to or was destroy). People believe what they want to believe. It has always been so.


21 posted on 10/09/2024 11:31:02 AM PDT by Whatever Works
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To: Starman417

The rumor about Jefferson and Hemings didn’t start with the Left. The rumor started way back in Jefferson’s lifetime.


22 posted on 10/09/2024 11:32:19 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

Politics. Sometimes as nasty then as it is now.


23 posted on 10/09/2024 11:37:34 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: nathanbedford
I would say rather that it's the left-wing that is engaged in pushing the Sally Hemings/Thomas Jefferson story.

Brother Randolph was a scapegrace and heavy drinker who spent a lot of time in the slave quarters playing the fiddle (he was supposed to be pretty good) and dancing. Multiple accounts from different sources confirm it.

In contrast, there is no first-hand evidence that Hemings was anything other than ladies' maid to Jefferson's motherless children in Paris. His time there was very public and highly publicized. If he had been dallying with Hemings, every servant in his house would have known it, and it would have been a major topic of conversation.

Moderns don't seem to understand how in the eighteenth century servants were ubiquitous, and knew ALL your business.

24 posted on 10/09/2024 11:52:31 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

The left pushes the story as it applies to slavery and the abuse of slaves - more evidence for their notion that we are a ‘systemically racist nation’ and have always been.


25 posted on 10/09/2024 12:06:17 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Starman417

“The title of our study was misleading in that it represented only the simplest explanation of our molecular findings”, as they put it.

Media being the media when busted some things never change.


26 posted on 10/09/2024 12:48:07 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Starman417
You guys can talk about this all you want, but I am convinced this happened in my family line.   When this story first came out decades ago, there was a very prominent Black man in the news with my last name and I was shocked by the resemblance to my Dad in every way.   Even the same unusual hairline and forehead.   Both of our family lines came from Virginia in the same area as Thomas Jefferson.   A couple of my ancestors were mentioned in Jefferson's writings.

With all the modern day sex scandals frequently in the news, with the knowledge that women in the 18th century were only a step up from servitude, it is likely the truth.   Then the fact that Sally was the daughter of his father-in-law makes it almost a certainty.

I can imagine Martha Jefferson on her deathbed telling Sally, her half sister, to take care of Thomas.

27 posted on 10/09/2024 1:04:31 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: higgmeister

I don’t believe Thomas was involved with Sally that way; but I’m sure that similar took place in many families.


28 posted on 10/09/2024 1:12:29 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Verginius Rufus
Madison Hemings, one of Sally's sons, told a newspaper in Ohio about 1873 that Jefferson was his father (but never treated him as a son). He also told the census taker in 1870 that he was the son of Thomas Jefferson and the census taker wrote that in the margin--I have seen the census record.

All of the naysayers need to think in terms of the mores of the 18th Century.   Thomas Jefferson died heavily in debt, yet he freed Madison Hemings from slavery in his 1826 will.   In those times that was proof of a father's love.

29 posted on 10/09/2024 1:34:38 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: higgmeister

That isn’t proof of anything. He also freed Sally’s brother, James, who was his chef. A more likely explanation is that, since the two were actually the half-siblings of his wife, Martha, he did it to honor Martha.

(He also tacitly ignored some of his slaves when they ‘ran away’.)


30 posted on 10/09/2024 1:42:50 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: higgmeister

Also, from everything I have read, Sally was a very close resemblance to Martha. Not unusual, as they were half-sisters.

It wouldn’t be hard to believe he slept with her. But Randolph, is still the more likely suspect. Or possibly both.


31 posted on 10/09/2024 3:12:06 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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To: nathanbedford
This account is not scholarship but a regrettable example of disputation emerging in support of the desired premise.

You do really have the most elegant prose; On Freerepublic, and the social media world at large.

32 posted on 10/09/2024 3:16:36 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Trump/Vance 2024 or GFY)
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To: Verginius Rufus

My Father was the King of Prussia too.


33 posted on 10/09/2024 3:24:12 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: Starman417

Never was any direct Evidence linking him to Sally, but this has been going on for hundreds of years.


34 posted on 10/09/2024 5:23:21 PM PDT by laweeks (///)
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To: higgmeister

Many people don’t want to believe that someone like Thomas Jefferson was imperfect in any way. And yet, the Founding Fathers were human and, therefore, they were flawed. Jefferson was imperfect, too, as evidenced by the fact that he was a slaveholder. These men lived 200-plus years ago in a time with a very different way of thinking.

The story about Jefferson and Hemings is not a Leftist creation. It was reported in Jefferson’s lifetime. It was spread by newspapers when Jefferson was president, and he never denied it. Madison said Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings were his father and mother. Then, DNA tests showed a relation between the Hemings and Jefferson families.

One could argue that Jefferson didn’t address the rumor because he felt it was beneath him and that Jefferson’s brother fathered the children. But, an honest person has to admit, Jefferson himself might’ve been the father.

Why is anyone shocked by that possibility? Sally Hemings herself was one of six children of Jefferson’s father-in-law and an enslaved ‘mulatto’ woman. When Sally’s son Madison was freed, he married a mixed-race woman who also was the child of an enslaved woman and a white slaveholder. Sally’s youngest son, Eston, married a free mixed-race woman whose mother was the child of an enslaved woman and a slaveholder. So, that story seemed to be common practice in that time and place.


35 posted on 10/09/2024 7:21:43 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: AnAmericanMother

Very good points.


36 posted on 10/09/2024 7:44:54 PM PDT by Loud Mime ("The Real Constitution" on Amazon. We are not right wing - we are constitutional centrists.)
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To: Tired of Taxes
Not a leftist creation, but started by a rather low-life news guy opposed to Jefferson.

The papers in those days were totally over the top. It was a case of ignore it - or issue a challenge to a duel.

37 posted on 10/10/2024 3:59:29 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

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Isn’t Jefferson the founder of the DemonicRat Party?


38 posted on 10/10/2024 6:41:38 AM PDT by CoastWatcher
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To: CoastWatcher

Jefferson started the Democratic-Republican Party. Republican in the same way as the revolutionary French Republican Party that wanted to strike down religion and cut off peoples heads. The true founder of the Modern Democratic Party was Andrew Jackson—the Indian Fighter-Pro-Slavery dude who got rich off dispelling Native People and setting up the all powerful Party. He created the “Keep the ball rolling” idea. Brave as a bulldog. An Assassin tried to kill him with two pistols, that both misfired, Andy almost beat the man to death with his cane.


39 posted on 10/10/2024 7:06:36 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell, War IS a Crime.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I believe Jackson carried a pistol ball in his chest from a duel he had early in his career.


40 posted on 10/10/2024 7:45:36 AM PDT by Reily (N)
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