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Frustrated Frum: 'Probably Stupid' Electoral College Gives Trump Chance To Win
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 09/12/2024 2:22:58 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

David Frum did stop short of banging his fists or stamping his feet. But on today's CNN This Morning, the Trump-detesting Canadian could not contain his frustration at the prospect that, thanks to the "probably stupid" rules of the Constitution, Trump could win the election with an Electoral College majority despite losing the popular vote count.

Frum was responding to a statement by Edward-Isaac Dovere that some in the Kamala camp believe that if the election were held today, she would lose.

Frum began by claiming: "We need to be more specific about what we mean by 'lose." Depends on what the meaning of is, is, David?

As Frum ranted against the rules of American politics with its Electoral College, host Kasie Hunt interjected: "But that's the rules of the game."

Responded Frum:

"Those are the rules. They were written in 1787, maybe they're wise, maybe they're stupid. Probably they're stupid."

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1 posted on 09/12/2024 2:22:58 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: miss marmelstein; patro; abb; SE Mom; HarleyLady27; connyankee; Behind Liberal Lines; KC_Lion; ...

PS: Libs trash Trump for putting the accent on the wrong syllable in “Kamala.” But as you’ll hear at 37 seconds into the video clip, guess who else said Ka-MA-la? Yup, Frum.

Ping to Liberal Media Criticism list.


2 posted on 09/12/2024 2:24:52 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Please ping or FReepmail me to be added to the Liberal Media Criticism ping list.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Davy. There is nothing stupid about the Electoral College. You’ve got to have the intelligence to understand how it works and why it works that way.


3 posted on 09/12/2024 2:25:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (abc ! America's lower case far-left network.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Cancel his @$$!


4 posted on 09/12/2024 2:25:37 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I don’t think Kamala or Trump will do well in the Electrical College. Neither has a background in electronics as far as I know.


5 posted on 09/12/2024 2:26:29 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Another useless Bushie


6 posted on 09/12/2024 2:27:38 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Clay Bevis and Cuck Butthead are panty wadded, pearl clutching cowards. Rush deserves better.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

LOL!

Well, Jimmy Carter was a nuclear sub engineer: and look how that turned out! :-)


7 posted on 09/12/2024 2:28:59 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Please ping or FReepmail me to be added to the Liberal Media Criticism ping list.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Decades ago, in the book “Dead Right”, Frum had predicted that populism would fade, and that the future of the Republican Party was in responsible fiscal policy combined with a libertarian position on social issues.

He was DEAD WRONG, and now reveals that he NEVER was engaged in honest political analysis, but in fantasy peddling.


8 posted on 09/12/2024 2:34:02 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Nope,they’re very good. The Electoral College guarantees that smaller states won’t be ignored at election time.


9 posted on 09/12/2024 2:35:29 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Frum does not believe in the Electoral College, nor will he be sending his kids there for their degrees.


10 posted on 09/12/2024 2:38:37 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Trump/Vance 2024 or GFY)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If it weren’t for the Constitution and the Electoral College, the communists would have taken complete control of the USA long ago. Our Founding Fathers were wise.


11 posted on 09/12/2024 2:41:34 PM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Does anyone ever think about how much statewide positions were decided by a “state level electoral college” system and how different the US Senate would be?

That being said, the 17th Amendment repeal should be an agenda item in Pres Trump’s next term

Democrats would never have control of the Senate.


12 posted on 09/12/2024 2:43:05 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Because even “a chance” of the other side winning, cannot be tolerated.


13 posted on 09/12/2024 2:46:27 PM PDT by simpson96
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To: Gay State Conservative

<>The Electoral College guarantees that smaller states won’t be ignored at election time.<>

The Framers couldn’t have cared less.

Read Federalist 68.


14 posted on 09/12/2024 2:49:12 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The is no United States without the Electoral College.

It’d be a different country.

The amorphous lump of America.


15 posted on 09/12/2024 3:08:01 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The democrats that want to abolish the electoral college for the popular vote should lead by example and change their Presidential Primary to popular vote.

They won’t do it because they actually have the power to do it in a Democrat Primary, but would need to change the Constitution for the General Election.


16 posted on 09/12/2024 3:13:09 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

People still do not like Harris. She is not likeable. You can’t make a terrible candidate good. You can’t give someone skills they don’t already have. Her appearance is very annoying.


17 posted on 09/12/2024 3:31:12 PM PDT by FreedBird (O)
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To: FreedBird

Kamala knows more about hyenafication than electrification.


18 posted on 09/12/2024 4:15:44 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Back in 2016, there were polls showing Trump between conventions leading Hillary Clinton nationally. However, the talking point line was “Well, he may have a chance of winning the popular vote, but his real problem is in the Electoral College” as though Hillary would inevitably win that, and that’s what counts. Then the opposite occurs and the script flips.

In fact, they did the exact same thing in 2000. The Electoral College was wonderful when it appeared Bush was going to win the popular vote according to the polls but possibly lose because of the Electoral College. It was a brilliant system per Gore’s people since that was looking like the scenario for his victory with Bush consistently ahead in national polls but they were even in multiple state battleground polls. Then it was terrible when the opposite occurred.

There is *no* actual “national popular vote” - this is essentially a meaningless statistic compiling the results of completely separate elections created by statute of the individual state legislatures. Of course, I recall the thread some years ago where I was blasted as “insane” for suggesting the U.S. Constitution does not create a popular vote for President and this is an entirely a creature of statute of your respect state legislature. But that is reality. When you vote for President, you are voting in a state election created by your state legislature. The only voting for President the Constitution outlines is the Electoral College and its Electors. Period.


19 posted on 09/12/2024 5:07:25 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Jacquerie

https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-man-who-saved-the-electoral-college

(I took that photo of Michael Uhlmann)


20 posted on 09/13/2024 8:12:51 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease. )
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