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That Debate Will Backfire Horribly For Both Kamala Harris And ABC
QTR's Fringe Finance ^ | 09/11/2024

Posted on 09/11/2024 8:34:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The initial reaction to last night’s debate is that Kamala Harris held her own, albeit with the help of two ABC moderators, and that Trump was “rattled” and on the defense more than he needed to be. Generally, the debate is being cast as anything but the overwhelming victory for Trump that many predicted.

But my guess is that both the dejection from the right and the perceived victory from the left will fade almost immediately as people have a chance to take in everything that really took place.

For starters, the times when Trump looked “the worst,” like when moderators tried to debunk him on the Springfield, Ohio, animal/pet killings that were confirmed by 911 calls minutes before the debate, will once again be proven to be factual and on point. The delivery wasn’t fantastic, but over the last three years, the country’s tolerance for being lied to by the media has shrunk significantly, so it won’t take as long as it normally would for people to see past Trump’s delivery. People are thinking critically now more than ever and doing their own independent fact-checking more than ever.

In short, people will quickly realize that Trump’s comments sounded justified.

And if Americans need a reminder as to why doing their own fact checking is so important, they only need to look at Kamala Harris’s near admission that COVID came out of a lab in China early in the debate. 3 years ago her side of the aisle would have called you a conspiracy theorist and banned you from social media for saying so.

I’ve already written extensively about how the media has lost significant credibility with independent and moderate voters due to their covering for Joe Biden in the midst of his obvious mental decline. I wrote about it in an article a couple of months ago simply called “We Can Be Lied To About Anything”.

After last night, when the average critically thinking, independent or moderate voter begins to emerge from the visceral reaction of who “won” the debate, the picture will start to come into focus. And it’ll be a picture of a news network that constantly tried to fact-check Donald Trump, despite Kamala Harris repeating multiple debunked conspiracy theories, like Trump’s Charlottesville comments, which were already debunked by Snopes, and his “bloodbath” comment, which was used in the context of talking about the auto industry.

When the average critically thinking American looks at the veracity of the lies that Kamala Harris put forth last night – including lies about Trump’s stance on in vitro fertilization, lies about Trump being associated with Project 2025, and lies about Trump not wanting to secure the border – it’s going to be very difficult to look back on this debate as a victory for her.

And God forbid these same moderate voters were looking for an actual policy stance from Kamala Harris.


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Despite being well-seasoned in her narrative and her answers and obviously prepared to answer questions she may or may not have received in advance, while benefiting from two friendly moderators and a question format that constantly pinned Trump as the antagonist before David Muir would lead Harris to her answer to reaffirm what the moderators had already decided, she was noticeably devoid of an explanation on her flip-flopping policies. She offered little to no detail on her flip-flops about fracking and her poor performance as border czar, and she failed to take accountability for what happened in Afghanistan, while simultaneously admitting that she approved of how it took place.

Not unlike when she was first crowned the “joy” candidate of the Left, there was a luster to her performance at the debate that is going to wear off very quickly.

And in my opinion, last night will just be another example of a constantly evolving populace seeing the left-wing media for exactly what it is: an arm of the Democratic Party.

Despite some mumbles and grumbles from the Republican side of the aisle, as soon as the debate ended, I reaffirmed to myself my trust in the American people to think for themselves and to see last night for what it was in hindsight: a set up.

I honestly believe that the rise of alternative media in this country, and the legacy media’s track record of horrific embarrassments, like covering up the Hunter Biden laptop story and lying to the American people about the mental acuity of President Joe Biden, have built up a bullshit tolerance for media spin in the average American.

More people know today that the left-leaning media has a narrative and lies to them than ever before. This debate will be different from other ones because it’ll eventually be looked at in that context. And when people go back and watch how the moderators constantly argued the merits with Trump while leading Harris in her answers to multiple questions, this debate will be revealed for the biased farce that it was. And then — mark my words — it will do more harm than good for Kamala Harris.

Harris has already come out and asked for a second debate with Trump, ostensibly indicating that she thinks last night was a success. When the debate ended, the scrutinization of ABC’s dirty tricks began — and they will be off the table in any future debates.

If I were Kamala, I’d be careful what I wish for in asking to step in the ring for a second debate. Just because the judges saw one round with Trump as a draw doesn’t mean you can go the distance and win by decision.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2024; abcnews; debate; kamala; ornot
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1 posted on 09/11/2024 8:34:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

abc is lower case.


2 posted on 09/11/2024 8:38:50 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (abc ! America's lower case far-left network.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It doesn’t sound to me like she did very well. Maybe there wasn’t a “you would be in jail” moment, or an “I don’t think he does either” moment, but I don’t think she came across as likeable or as anyone who inspired confidence in the idea of her being President.

PDJT knew that if he got her with any zingers he’d be called a “racist” or a “misogynist” or some such. He didn’t give her side any openings to do that, apparently.

Don’t be so glum. The story’s not over. A lot can happen between now and election day. What are the chances world events will make Kamala Harris look good?


3 posted on 09/11/2024 8:40:09 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: SeekAndFind

When Trump wins he should PULL THEIR LISCENCE. They are NOT news. Just BS.


4 posted on 09/11/2024 8:40:47 AM PDT by Singermom
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Lower caste?


5 posted on 09/11/2024 8:41:53 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: SeekAndFind

All the questions from the Mickey and Minnie Mouse moderators were pro Harris.

What about the Harris Administration giving Iran billions and allowing Iran to make billions be selling oil?

What about Harris’ energy policy which made Putin rich enough to invade Ukraine?

Where were the questions about Harris being the tie breaking vote that caused the massive inflation?

Disney failed America. Boycott Disney.


6 posted on 09/11/2024 8:42:34 AM PDT by Chgogal (To paraphrase Biden: You vote Democrat? Then you ain't smart. )
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To: SeekAndFind

I have a friend who is a Super Trumper

he called me after the debate (which I did not hear or see)

he said that on a scale of 1 to 10 Kamala was a 7 Trump was a 6 and the moderators were a 5.

one of my kids called me and said Kamala sounded like a ditzy slightly drunk collage girl except on one question about Israel and Palestine, he thinks she rehearsed that answer for a week


7 posted on 09/11/2024 8:45:49 AM PDT by algore
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To: FlingWingFlyer

It was so sickenIing that I could only watch a couple of minutes of her lies and distortions.


8 posted on 09/11/2024 8:46:23 AM PDT by dvan (Send Them Home!Napolatono)
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To: SeekAndFind

Two Greasy Piles Of Lying Gaslighting Media Feces


9 posted on 09/11/2024 8:47:47 AM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: SeekAndFind

Considering it was a lop-sided 3 against 1 debate, DJT did pretty good. At least better than I would have because I would have had my wife do a Will Smith and lay a beat down on Kameltoe as soon as she made that smarmy snarky b*tchface. I would have just walked off anyway because of the BS “fact checking”, notice that the leftist activist “moderators” only fact checked DJT and not Kameltoe even once while she spewed flat out lies, including stuff that had been previously debunked. No more debates on HARD PROGRESSIVE MARXIST/LEFTIST media, that is ALWAYS a big mistake, you will not be treated fairly.


10 posted on 09/11/2024 8:49:42 AM PDT by jpp113
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To: FlingWingFlyer
abc is lower case.

Let's do the "lower than whale droppings" thingee, shall we?

abc is lower case.

11 posted on 09/11/2024 8:49:54 AM PDT by kiryandil (Kraft durch Freude! - The Kamunist and The Walzrus )
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To: dvan

I was tuned in to “Deadliest Catch” and followed abc’s Weird Kambala Harris freak show here on FR.


12 posted on 09/11/2024 8:50:25 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (abc ! America's lower case far-left network.)
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To: Steely Tom

Good summation. It wasn’t a great debate nor was it a disaster for Trump. At the very least he looked far more presidential than Harris whereas she looked weak as a leader having both John Muir and Linsey Davis protecting her the entire night. The enemies of America were watching too and you can bet they’re hoping for a Kamala Harris presidency.


13 posted on 09/11/2024 8:50:33 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: kiryandil

Excellent.


14 posted on 09/11/2024 8:50:50 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (abc ! America's lower case far-left network.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This will be remembered as “The Three Against One Debate”.


15 posted on 09/11/2024 8:51:48 AM PDT by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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To: SeekAndFind

Having a prostitute run for President is the climax of a civilization.


16 posted on 09/11/2024 8:52:52 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: algore

These guys have had Disney’s number for a while (and they deserve to go viral—the work they do is absolutely brilliant)

I must issue a LANGUAGE WARNING, though they’re hugely worth watching!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUABYUuX84I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqJ0EZXfbm4

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=245j8gWuOTQ


17 posted on 09/11/2024 8:53:40 AM PDT by Windcatcher
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To: Steely Tom
The story’s not over. A lot can happen between now and election day.

And that is what we need to remember.

The "Debate Show" had a net zero effect. We still need to be working. In particular, some external event will come up in which Harris will react very badly. We must hammer on such weakness when it shows up.

Press on with the campaigning.

18 posted on 09/11/2024 8:53:55 AM PDT by flamberge (Vote early and vote often. That is the Democrat way.)
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To: kiryandil

Maybe some of the other “codgers” here remember three network TV the way I do. CBS and NBC were the top two networks with the best shows. With news, I never watched abc. abc was always last. JMO.


19 posted on 09/11/2024 8:53:57 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (abc ! America's lower case far-left network.)
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To: kenmcg

Yup!


20 posted on 09/11/2024 8:54:22 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (abc ! America's lower case far-left network.)
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