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"The 'Putin system' is beginning to collapse"
msn.com ^ | June 10, 2024 | Staff

Posted on 06/10/2024 6:03:54 PM PDT by canuck_conservative

According to the mathematician [Immanuel Niven], the "Putin system" is beginning to collapse, exactly what he predicted mathematically already in March: "The announced drastic tax increases in Russia (the highest tax increases in the history of modern Russia) as well as Putin's recently published slogans (according to which "everyone must work as if they were at the front") are dramatic signs that the toxicity of the Russian war economy is reaching a critical level."

In a post on X some days ago, he explained what this 'toxicity' means: "If the cost of replacing material losses (in such a way that the speed of replacement is in balance with the speed of losses) is no longer within the scope of the financing of the state budget, then a system becomes unfinanceable. This unfinanceability is toxic for a system because it causes the system to collapse in the medium term (unless the war is won)."

Niven explains further that Russia is familiar with this type of toxicity: "The USSR collapsed when the costs of the arms race (pushed by US President Ronald Reagan) could no longer be financed from the state budget, which led to the collapse of the state." ...

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


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To: canuck_conservative

Serious question here.
If the strain of this invasion is weighing heavily on Russias economy, what targets need to be destroyed or disabled within Russia that are too expensive or impossible to fix or replace given sanctions and the strain on Russias economy of this war?
Critical infrastructure? Rail hubs? Nuke plants? Factories making xxx? Oil pipelines to India and China? Fertilizer hubs? Mines or mining transport? Electric grid lines? Where do the Ukes get the most bang for the buck striking deep inside Russia to cripple their economy? This isn’t WW2 and we aren’t resupplying via lend lease this time.
Is China willing to or even ABLE to? They have their own problems with economy concerns via real estate finance collapse.


61 posted on 06/11/2024 2:22:51 AM PDT by desertsolitaire (Perhaps the Great Ape Lawgiver in the series Planet of the Apes was correct in his view of humans?)
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To: canuck_conservative

Its all propaganda.

Russia has a toxic economy?

Russia is a totalitarian state.THey could care less about the Rissian people. They have no power.

Whether the economy in Russia is toxic, or booming does not matter.Russia’’s allies will supply Russia with whatever it wants carte blanche.

The only thing Russia understands is force majeur. And Biden alongwith the sociialist Progressives wh9 run NATO do not want to deliver enough of it for Urkaine’s victory, preferring a stalemate and large kick back schemes for individuals who admonister rtge suopoky of ars to the socilaist progressive gvoernment of Ukraine.

Ukraine has two paths to salvation....

1) the proper supply of military assets, ordnance and air superiority over Ukraine’s territory, the seizing of Russian territory .

2) Abandonment of the West and an alliance with Russia with a retiurn to Staus Quo Ante.

A defeat for NATO, which it deserves, given i ts failure as a self defense organization over the last 20 yeras.NATO has become a tool for Western conquest under the leadership of Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama. THe bombing of the Balkans, the conquest and destruction of Libya are two minor examples of NATOs failure to prosecute its mandate.NATO has caused the war with Russia and it is NATO that prolongs that war for the sake of greed. NATO does not conduct this war towards victory. Ask yourself why.


62 posted on 06/11/2024 3:57:08 AM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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To: dangus
So, is it your opinion that Russia isn’t really almost doubling the income tax rate on middle and upper classes, or is it your opinion that that doing so is harmless?

No, it's my opinion you are a moron being manipulated. Russians are very similar to Americans, and we should be allies. But you freaks are so manipulated by the media and this government that we are about to go to war with Russia.
63 posted on 06/11/2024 4:00:37 AM PDT by JoSixChip (P.S. There’s a fed in that thread you’re in right now.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Geesh, what would we ever do without more daily lies and fabrication from the enemedia?


64 posted on 06/11/2024 5:04:33 AM PDT by dforest ( )
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To: JoSixChip

Hey, I do wish we’d made friends with Russia instead of enemies. The Clinton years were the greatest fumble in the history of international politics. But it’s astonishing to read the way all these propaganda-soaked “patriots” shill for the neo-Stalinists in Russia. There is simply no excuse, no defense, no rationalization for the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Even if they invaded only the Donbas, I’d’ve opposed military intervention. But holy s**t, this is just unbelievable!!!!


65 posted on 06/11/2024 5:05:39 AM PDT by dangus
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To: your other brother

Caine Mutiny


66 posted on 06/11/2024 5:07:17 AM PDT by dforest ( )
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To: bimboeruption; canuck_conservative; Jim Robinson; Chris Robinson; tennmountainman; Allegra
Excellent Reveal.

I am a US citizen living in Canada.

Most Canadians have no history of their own fall from the blessings of liberty at the hands of progressives beginning with Lester Pearson back in the early 1960s. Their native accomplishment is making sure that their military officer corps are 100% bilingual so they can die in two languages.

I am not apologizing for the whining from Caunckistan, just pointing out that they are actually what Biden and his henchmen want US to become, ruled entirely by socialist civility and political correctness.

Canada's fall from grace began when it disposed of the flag under which Canada's ancestors fought to help defeat the Nazis, the British Naval Ensign. They substituted an iconic social engineering rag with the blood red of communists on a white blanket of snow.Canadians did not fight and die in WWII for the crap that is now being foisted on Canada's somnolent population.All of them are asleep except those who organized and /or supported the Freedom Convoy.

Canadians should be angry when they encounter free speech on FR, they do not have it at home.So we are Cognito Ergo Sum, bullies for speaking our minds. If you are bullied here Canadians, its simply because you do not comprehend the essence of the 1st amendment.We need no referees to exercise it.Some how Canadians mostly think that Freedom of Speech must be regulated.That's why the Criminal Code of Canada defines “hate speech.” Call the wrong Frenchman a frog in public and you can go to jail.That's not freedom of speech yet Canadians readily cow themselves and accept it.

Buahahahahahahahahaha.

Here is a message for canuck_conservative. One I did not write.It was spoken by Samuel Adams at the Philadephia State House on August 1st, 1776:


If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.

Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life; secondly, to liberty; thirdly to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can.

The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.”

Samuel Adams

*******************************

May Free Republic continue to awaken Canadians to genuine Freedom of Speech, which most of them cannot take.If that is painful, we are simply doing a damned good job.Maybe one day the whole of Canada will support the Freedom Convoy as a legitimate political party.

67 posted on 06/11/2024 5:08:12 AM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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To: canuck_conservative

A must read. Its why the USA has designed NATO to continue a stalemate war between Ukraine and Russia.

Like I said before. Greed.

Ukraine is a gold mine US senator
Big News Network ^ | June 10, 2024

Posted on 6/10/2024, 10:36:18 AM by McGruff

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4243370/posts

The last thing Biden wants is a Ukrainian victory.Europe is hostage due to that greed.


68 posted on 06/11/2024 5:20:03 AM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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To: JoSixChip; Jim Robinson; Chris Robinson
you are a moron

More petty personal insults, in response to a straight-forward question

Free Republic 2024! (and what's wrong with it)


69 posted on 06/11/2024 5:25:01 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: kiryandil

Every day that Ukraine survives is another win

And that drives you Russia cheerleaders crazy LOL


70 posted on 06/11/2024 5:29:09 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: canuck_conservative
Free Republic 2024! (and what's wrong with it)

I stand by what I said. You can whine to the mods all you want, but you zeeper morons are "what's wrong with it". You pollute this site non stop with divisive propaganda. You are all lying filthy scum in my book.
71 posted on 06/11/2024 5:39:51 AM PDT by JoSixChip (P.S. There’s a fed in that thread you’re in right now.)
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To: JoSixChip

What you call “divisive propaganda” is merely truth that you can’t handle

Because you can’t accept the simple fact that Russia is not winning, but is instead bogged-down in a ruinous conflict that is sucking 1/3 of the Life out of the Russian economy

As long as Russia is weakened, the whole World wins!

Enjoy


72 posted on 06/11/2024 5:44:06 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: canuck_conservative
What you call “divisive propaganda” is merely truth that you can’t handle Because you can’t accept the simple fact that Russia is not winning, but is instead bogged-down in a ruinous conflict that is sucking 1/3 of the Life out of the Russian economy As long as Russia is weakened, the whole World wins!

I rest my case, only a complete moron would post such obvious propaganda.
73 posted on 06/11/2024 5:52:04 AM PDT by JoSixChip (P.S. There’s a fed in that thread you’re in right now.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Your question requires that the person agree with an assertion from a propaganda source cherry picked by you. Even you can’t prove what is in this article is indeed factual.

Many Zeepers mostly post articles from sources that have been pure propaganda since the beginning of this debacle. They are leftist and globalist. The idea of the bombardment of these articles is that you actually believe this is going to aid in getting rid of Putin and installing a globalist puppet. It won’t. There are far worse people than Putin who is a moderate.

You slam people for cheering for Russia if they disagree or doubt your continual onslaught of globalist propaganda.

Most Americans do not want a major war with Russia, not because they love Russia, but because the care about America and want to return it to a place we can be proud of.

I suggest you spend more time fighting to make Canada great again. A place where the government isn’t entertaining and honoring actual Nazi’s for the delight of a foreign visitor.

The only problem with FR in 2024 are people like you with an agenda contrary to what is good for this country and the well being of Americans.

You are also big babies who have to pester the bosses because you don’t like the responses you get for this continual nonsense you post. Just ignore what you don’t like. Is that so hard to do?

Why try to force it? Go post to a place where people will appreciate your sources and commentary and agree with you all the time.


74 posted on 06/11/2024 6:07:55 AM PDT by dforest ( )
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To: canuck_conservative

Why don’t you create your own online forum?
You can make your own rules and regulations.
Btw, is anybody holding you hostage here?
This is not hotel California. You CAN leave.


75 posted on 06/11/2024 6:18:55 AM PDT by ANKE69
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To: Candor7; Bulwyf

Excellent post - thank you!

FR has some great Canadian members who are an asset to the site.

I only know of a couple who take the Biden/Nuland stance on things, but I believe those are Ukrainians living in Canada, not true Canadians.


76 posted on 06/11/2024 7:00:33 AM PDT by Allegra (Toss a zeeper in the Dnieper)
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To: canuck_conservative

You whine about personal insults and then post things like this:

“And that drives you Russia cheerleaders crazy LOL”

https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/4243500/posts?page=70#70

“Blame Putin, Russian dumbass”

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4243093/posts?page=60#60

“Buzz off, dumbass”

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4241233/posts?page=11#11

And that’s just going back a few days. Perhaps you should stop whining until you can refrain from insulting FReepers. And the Boss doesn’t care for FReepers being called Russians, either.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4243242/posts?page=29#29


77 posted on 06/11/2024 8:08:22 AM PDT by Allegra (Toss a zeeper in the Dnieper)
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To: canuck_conservative; JoSixChip; kiryandil; ANKE69; Allegra
Look how the little canuck crybaby runs to the Robinsons when someone calls him a name.

You're so sensitive you can't even take being called a "moron"? Don't the Robinsons have enough on their shoulders now? Why are you bothering them with your foolishness?

Good grief, JoSixChips is right, you ARE a moron and a pathetic one at that.

Change your name. You're no Conservative. You're a liberal wuss just like your leader, Trudeau.

Now run to the Robinsons. Waste more of their time.

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78 posted on 06/11/2024 8:48:42 AM PDT by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: Candor7

>>>>>Their native accomplishment is making sure that their military officer corps are 100% bilingual so they can die in two languages.<<<<<

I love your sense of humor. Zeepers, like canuck, are void of humor. They can’t tell the difference between joking and actual ridicule.

Thanks for the history lesson. I googled the British Naval Ensign. They should have kept it. IMHO it’s more inspiring than a red maple leaf.

Canada has the Freedom Convoy. We have MAGA. Thank God there are still people who know what freedom is and are willing to fight for it.


79 posted on 06/11/2024 9:38:49 AM PDT by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: canuck_conservative
Every day that Ukraine survives is another win

Every day that Ukraine survives is another win for The Russia and The Putin.

"fixed it"

80 posted on 06/11/2024 10:01:33 AM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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