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Which are more dangerous to conservatives and our nation? The left or the "stab you in the back" GOP establishment? I wonder who exactly is behind this ad campaign and who is funding it?

A President has to have a wide range of immunity as President. If not, the opposing party would stop him at every turn no matter the policy implemented, words spoken, or action taken. That's been the precedent for decades. This is just another "Trump" exception to previously accepted rules and laws.

It's a bit like the executive privilege that all previous Presidential advisors have enjoyed. Suddenly, courts have decided that anyone who advised President Trump has to 'spill the beans' on any policy decision and are liable for some crime if they fail to so do. Of course, that doesn't apply to Biden and his advisors or appointees.

1 posted on 06/10/2024 2:09:14 PM PDT by CFW
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Of course “Republicans” are doing this. Although they have no intention of using it on an actual traitorous criminal like pedojoe and his crime family.


2 posted on 06/10/2024 2:12:06 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to kill us. Plan to avoid this.)
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Republicans for Corruption sponsored the ad


3 posted on 06/10/2024 2:12:37 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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Did Liz Cheney organize it?


4 posted on 06/10/2024 2:13:58 PM PDT by HollyB
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Exactly right.


5 posted on 06/10/2024 2:15:18 PM PDT by TonyinLA (I don't have sufficient information to formulate a reasoned opinion said no lefty ever.)
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The question for the Supreme Court in Trump's appeal is:

What rules do you want to set for claims against Barak Obama and Joe Biden?

I do not think the answer can be predicted.

6 posted on 06/10/2024 2:15:55 PM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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NEVER TRUMPERS. 🙄


7 posted on 06/10/2024 2:16:50 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for rour nation. Pray for President Trump. Never be a slave in a new Socialist America.)
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These guys are as “conservative” as anyone supporting expanded abortion rights ...


10 posted on 06/10/2024 2:21:17 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (The history of the present Federal Government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations ....)
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If Trump doesn’t have immunity, neither do his predecessors. I, for one, would LOVE to see the raid on Dick Cheney.


11 posted on 06/10/2024 2:22:18 PM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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Republican group launches ad campaign against presidential immunity

Front group or nut-jobs. Either way, we need a lot more baseball bat justice in this nation.

14 posted on 06/10/2024 2:24:45 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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The Trump Era has exposed a lot of fraudulent people & organizations hiding under the banner of “Republicans or Conservatives.”

If the 45th President fails to accomplish anything else, this was still a great achievement.

“Waking up to reality has its benefits.”


15 posted on 06/10/2024 2:25:51 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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I don’t think anyone will be shocked to know one of the principle backers of this campaign ad is Bill Kristol and his group that calls themselves Defending Democracy Together. The group also includes Mona Charen and Linda Chavez.


16 posted on 06/10/2024 2:26:18 PM PDT by dowcaet
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“Republicans for the Rule of Law”

More like Alleged GOPeers for Long TDS.


17 posted on 06/10/2024 2:27:28 PM PDT by Paladin2
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“Republicans for the Rule of Law is the principal initiative of the conservative, anti-Donald Trump political group Defending Democracy Together, founded by Bill Kristol, Mona Charen, Linda Chavez, Sarah Longwell, and Andy Zwick in 2019.”

“founded by Bill Kristol” ... That says it all


19 posted on 06/10/2024 2:31:40 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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Ah yes, “A Republican Group”. What nonsense.


25 posted on 06/10/2024 3:32:52 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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Republicans for the Rule of Law is the principal initiative of the conservative, anti-Donald Trump political group Defending Democracy Together, founded by Bill Kristol, Mona Charen, Linda Chavez, Sarah Longwell, and Andy Zwick in 2019.

Used to like Mona Charen & Linda Chavez, never like Bill Kristol. Unfamiliar with Sarah Longwell, or Andy Zwick. But the three I know are all Bush supporters.

27 posted on 06/10/2024 3:42:03 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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So they’re basically saying they want the president’s entire security detail to also go to jail even though they have committed no crimes.


29 posted on 06/10/2024 4:03:19 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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The President is the embodiment of the Executive Branch. He lives in the same building as the Oval Office. As the single elected Executive branch officer, he should have immunity for all acts whatsoever unless impeached by the House and convicted by the Senate.

Perhaps Presidential immunity would finally put some backbone into the Senate to convict someone if properly impeached in the House, because impeachment conviction overrules Presidential immunity?

In essence, without immunity it would be like asking the President to keep a daily timesheet like a factory worker who clocks in when he goes on the line and then clocks out when goes to lunch.

To me, identifying a "core" from a "personal" act is a retroactive look-back at something; in the moment the President is just being the President.

Example:

When President Bush was reading a storybook to kindergartners on the morning of 9/11, was that a Presidential or personal act? I'd say it was presidential as the President is out meeting the people. Was it a "core" presidential act? I think many people could debate both sides of this, saying that "core" presidential acts are those that interact with Congress or involve meeting with foreign leaders, or when acting as Commander-in-Chief.

So, if President Bush reading books to children is not a "core" Presidential act, would he not have immunity for doing it? Suppose that a parent didn't like the story Bush was reading and wanted to sue him for exposing their child to content not appropriate to the beliefs of the parents?

And then, when aides interrupted President Bush with the news of the plane crashes into the Pentagon and the World Trade Center, did Bush suddenly "snap" into core Presidential mode? In other words, is there a switch that flips on and off outside of the President's control that categorizes his minute-to-minute existence as core, non-core, and personal, or do we just say the President is in a very fluid, dynamic, and often stressful role as the sole elected official of the Executive branch, and everything he does is core to the role?

That's my take. If events beyond the President's control determines when he is or is not performing a "core" Presidential act, then the President must have full immunity for all acts while President, unless impeached and convicted by Congress.

-PJ

32 posted on 06/10/2024 4:14:50 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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Gays for Palestine,and Chickens for KFC.


34 posted on 06/10/2024 5:04:29 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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Yes, definitely a GROPElite anti-Trump RINO “named” group funded by and actually supporting Biden’s China, Ukrainian money laundering, the cartels, abortion, and homosexual/child porn divisions of today’s anti-Western movement.


35 posted on 06/10/2024 7:07:52 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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President Nixon could have been convicted.

Presidents don’t have more immunity than their subordinates such as Merrick Garland or Jack Smith.

Presidents enjoy a presumption that their actions were legal.

Trump is a highly reasonable man. His reasoning ability is a saving grace.


36 posted on 06/10/2024 7:24:46 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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