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100,000 models show that not much was learned about stopping the Covid-19 pandemic
statnews ^ | 06/05/2024 | Eran Bendavid and Chirag Patel

Posted on 06/05/2024 1:19:10 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

In the midst of the Covid-19 pandemic, scientists and public health institutions made bold claims about the effectiveness of various policy responses such as closing schools and banning public gatherings. These claims shaped government responses and had enormous effects on the lives of billions of people around the world. Are those claims supported by data?

To answer that question, we explored whether patterns in the epidemiologic data could support claims made in the scientific literature and by public health institutions about the effectiveness of policy responses to Covid-19.

We were optimistic we would find some policies that were consistently helpful. We thought the data would show that early shelter-in-place containment measures in the spring of 2020 were more effective in preventing deaths than those later in the pandemic; or that case numbers would not rise after restrictions on attending schools were lifted.

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Well no *&*&..
1 posted on 06/05/2024 1:19:10 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Are these models good looking?

At least some of them?


2 posted on 06/05/2024 1:22:33 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Because most of it was the seasonal flu. 🙄


3 posted on 06/05/2024 1:23:00 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

My take on this article is that there is a very definite drip drip drip of truth emerging about the asinine covid measures.


4 posted on 06/05/2024 1:28:27 PM PDT by toddausauras (Trump 2024)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Correct, the flu was nearly absent. A Total Fraud. Tying peoples hands down with a vent in, killed more. The CARDIO who did my eldist 52 year old son’s Quad Bypass left the Anthesia tube in. Like most a X smoker with COPD, NO BAND STATING HE HAD COPD. We were told NO visitors to ICU the first day, BS this mom went, he was unable to communicate except with eyes and was CHOKING TO DEATH. Nurse in the hall. I’m not just his mom, I’m his Decision maker. I decide what is best when he can’t, and he sure couldn’t.

Steve Kirch over on Subtack tracked the whole crap and picked it apart.


5 posted on 06/05/2024 1:34:19 PM PDT by GailA (Land Grabs, Poisoned Food, KILL the COWS, Bidenomics=BIDEN DEPRESSION. STAGNATION)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

You can’t stop a pandemic. By definition that means it has spread far and wide, across continents and around the world.
It has to run its course. Happens every 100 years or so. You can treat it. Vaccines were the dumbest idea for many reasons people here already know - and it’s bad epidemiology to do it while the pandemic is raging. They should have looked closely at IVM/HCQ+Zinc+Vitamins+Antibiotic regimens to treat the infected. But if they were proven to work in real clinical trials (which would have been easy to enroll in the middle of the pandemic) then nobody would’ve made any money or grabbed power.


6 posted on 06/05/2024 1:36:35 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
The Covid scam was all about hobbling Trump in an election year while also using Covid to institute vote-by-mail to ensure their election fraud scheme would oust Trump. I'm sure they have other things cooked up for this election cycle.
7 posted on 06/05/2024 1:37:50 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (To solve the Democrat problem, the RINO problem must first be solved.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Plaquenil worked = Hydroxychloroquine few could pronounce. So did the supplement formula, especially if Quinine Bark was added. It treats Malaria, RA, and Lupus.


8 posted on 06/05/2024 1:38:10 PM PDT by GailA (Land Grabs, Poisoned Food, KILL the COWS, Bidenomics=BIDEN DEPRESSION. STAGNATION)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Pretty inconclusive fare here. A lot of “kinda, sorta, maybes”.

I was hoping to learn some data on India’s response using mass distributions of ivermectin. As I recall, they had a massive outbreak (600,000 infected). The ivermectin protocol seems to have knocked it out cold within a month.


9 posted on 06/05/2024 1:42:04 PM PDT by Migraine ( )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

They were and still are supported by trump. He reminded us of the billions of lives he saved worldwide. He and he presidential award commendee Fauci truly saved us all.
I mean choirs were killing grandma and had the be shut down… but burning down cities was a prelude to trumps unblinding of justice.


10 posted on 06/05/2024 1:43:36 PM PDT by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I came here for pictures of the models.


11 posted on 06/05/2024 1:50:02 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

H5N1 (bird flu virus) will probably be next. Dangerous gain of function experimentation has already taken place engineering dangerous H1N1 viral variants that would infect other mammals and maybe humans. These “studies” were halted briefly, but fired up again. And Pfizer and Moderna want their new viral m-RNA bird flu jab to be used.


12 posted on 06/05/2024 1:51:31 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If you isolate, you eat, drink and get things delivered. People ‘touched’ all that. They touched the door handles to your house, everywhere you touch, THEY touched.

You venture out to a store, it says “Masks” Please take one. Somebody TOUCHED that BOX. You get a cart, and then run for the wipes dispense. Somebody touched that AND the trash can you throw it in. All the fruits and vegetables in the store and all the boxes the other food comes in - somebody touched all that.

You can’t live like that and you can’t walk around in a level 5 hazmat suit and similar detox/decontamination station at home. In the end, the real pandemic was in the draconian way government-controlled medical establishment ‘treated’ it.


13 posted on 06/05/2024 1:53:54 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ChicagoConservative27

First... One must assume they wanted to stop the spread.

Two. They didn’t care if it spread. They saw the enormous potential to grab power. And look how easy it was for the marxists. A flu shut the world down and people displayed their obedience wearing their sackcloth masks showing what good people they are. AND, they got rid of Trump. That was the most important part of the whole ordeal. GET TRUMP.


14 posted on 06/05/2024 2:00:07 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
GIGO (Garbage In Garbage Out)

Too much disinformation, because Covid was over represented as the cause of deaths for financial reasons. Too many claims of those not vaccinated infecting others vaccinated or not vaccinated. Too many claims of the vaccine being the reason for saving the life of a person who got the vaccine. Thus, you could never get an accurate working model that was even worth the effort.

15 posted on 06/05/2024 2:00:14 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“Learning” wasn’t the objective: Control, manipulation, and the killing of the masses was.


16 posted on 06/05/2024 2:01:46 PM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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They wanted to learn how to make their plandemic worse, not save lives. They wouldn't have forced elder care facilities to accept actively sick people if sparing life was their goal. They practiced the rollout of the control-pandemic with H1N1. They tried to get a pandemic going back then. I recall Fauci talking to a reporter while he displayed disgust and exasperation because he couldn't get a panic going, nothing he had been saying made the public get an H1N1 vax.

They held more than one International practice event where the nations got together to work out how to control the public through messaging and mandates. I think the last one was Event 201 wherein the countries crafted ways to 'stop misinformation' (censor the truth). They've had these international coordination before - each time saying it was to protect the public. In reality, they were 'getting their stories straight.

I remember reading plans for Covid detention centers in the US, and about Australia hunting people who escaped from their Covid detention centers.

1. Yesterday, Fauci testified before the House Select Committe on the Covid pandemic.

2. Yesterday Deep State talking points with graphs purporting to show the vaccine worked, along with false user comments were posted to IMGUR.COM, after a long period of relative silence on the topic

https://imgur.com/gallery/united-states-covid-19-weeklydeath-rate-by-vaccination-status-allages-2GUqALT

SAMPLES OF COMMENTS:

"Remember all the severely sick people in the US that couldn't find a place in ERs and died because all the unvaccinated morons clogged the ERs, leaving no survival chance for them"

"Excess deaths increased after the COVID vaccine! Of course they did, by people that refused to get vaccinated."

"This is a year and a half in, after we had figured out which treatments actually helped, and death rates for unvaccinated people still hit 30/100,000 people. This is why I hate the, "Just a flu," crowd."

"My favorite part is where they think that people believed we wouldn't be able to transmit the virus after getting vaxxed. No idiots, we know how it works, we didn't want to die cause we were sick."

"Trump's denial program killed almost a million Americans. Not hyperbole. Compare US fatality rate with Australia and other sane countries."

 


17 posted on 06/05/2024 2:11:39 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Skooz
Ask and ye shall receive


18 posted on 06/05/2024 2:19:49 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: monkeyshine
“Happens every 100 years or so.”

Bet it happens a lot more often than that going forward.

19 posted on 06/05/2024 2:51:00 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

What you and the rest of us freepers already know is that the jab is NOT a vaccine! It was originally labeled as a therapeutic, you know sorta like a throat losenge or something. Then the had to change the “official” defiition of a vaccine to cover it. I try never to call it a vaccine, cause it’s not.


20 posted on 06/05/2024 3:04:47 PM PDT by mistfree (Fear Destroys Freedom)
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