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AP reports that noncitizen voting has become GOP talking point even though it's illegal
Twitchy.com ^ | 5/18/2024 | Brett T

Posted on 05/19/2024 3:50:09 AM PDT by NetAddicted

The Biden campaign keeps trying to hit on Speaker Mike Johnson for a bill making it illegal for noncitizens to vote in federal elections. It's already illegal, so what's he trying to prove? Sen. Mike Lee recently posted a lengthy thread on just how "shockingly easy" it is for noncitizens to vote. As we reported, a Mexican NGO called Resource Center Matamoras has been distributing flyers to illegal immigrants encouraging them to vote for President Joe Biden. "Reminder to vote for President Biden when you are in the United States. We need another four years of his term to stay open," the flyer reads.

Christina Pushaw noticed the Washington Post shift from "it's not happening" to "it's happening, but it's rare."

Today in clown world news: The Washington Post has transitioned from "non-citizens can't vote in U.S. elections, conspiracy theorist" to "foreign nationals ARE voting in U.S. elections, that's great for Our Democracy™️, and Republican meanies are racist for trying to stop them!" pic.twitter.com/ccAEjcS6Mz

— Christina Pushaw 🐊 🇺🇸 (@ChristinaPushaw) May 9, 2024

What does the Post mean by noncitizen voting is "rare"? How rare? Once is too many times. Not to mention that President Joe Biden recently slipped up and said the millions of illegal immigrants who've crossed the border during his administration are "model citizens."

Now the Associated Press is carrying water for the Biden campaign, noting that noncitizen voting, while already illegal, has become a centerpiece of Republican messaging. Maybe Republicans are concerned that millions of "model citizens" have been imported since the previous election.

Noncitizen voting, already illegal in federal elections, becomes a centerpiece of 2024 GOP messaging https://t.co/6gIGjIJSAu

— The Associated Press (@AP) May 18, 2024

Already illegal?

Tell the Democrats that.

— MatthewJshow (@MatthewJshow) May 18, 2024

Illegal is one thing, but a better question is whether there are things being done to prevent it from happening. Do some states, for example, require proof of citizenship to register to vote or do you just have to check a box claiming you are a citizen?

— LorieByrd (@LorieByrd) May 18, 2024

As Lee said, it's basically the honor system.

The issue isn't if it's legal or not, it's the fact that it is happening. Even one illegal vote means the election isn't legitimate.

— Jeff H (@politicswarblog) May 18, 2024

Illegal but not enforced is the same as legal. Think marijuana.

— Andrea E (@AAC0519) May 18, 2024

Murder is illegal. Fentanyl sales are illegal. But they still happen. Only a process to verify identity and citizenship will keep our elections honest.

— JazBInKC 🎸 (@jazbinkc2) May 18, 2024

Every time a driver's license is given a new illegal voter is registered.

This is how many states create voter registrations.

Automatic Voter Registration (https://t.co/EKO1hbctMJ)

— ⏳ Suspended in Time ⏳ (@SuspendedAnd1) May 18, 2024

We know that at least California and Minnesota will issue driver's licenses to illegal aliens.

They keep saying federal elections in the hopes that you’ll forget that Democrats allow illegal immigrants to vote in local elections https://t.co/W1k6VblxWq

— The Dank Knight 🦇 (@capeandcowell) May 18, 2024

They have no idea how many non citizens vote. Most states have no requirement to prove citizenship to register and some require as little as a utility bill to show residency.

— mallen2024 (@mallen20243) May 18, 2024

Should be illegal in all elections. Federal, state, and local. And illegals shouldn’t be counted in redistricting too.

— n0kx (@n0kx_) May 18, 2024

So, we're now in the "We're-gonna-pretend-we're-not-doing-that-thing-we're-actually-doing-while-framing-our-accusers-as-conspiracy-theorists" phase of the operation.

Got it.

— Matt Paulus 🇺🇸 (@mdpaulus) May 18, 2024

Illegal border crossings happen every day too despite being against the law.

— John Adams (@JhnAdmz) May 18, 2024

Your logic sleight of hand is noted.

Murder is illegal so as we all know it never happens

Crossing the border without a visa or green card or USA passport is illegal so we all know it never happens.

— EnlightenedBaka (@EnlightenedBak2) May 18, 2024

If its not happening a bill to make sure it stays illegal and is better enforced shouldnt be controversial. And yet....

— Tim Mathis (@timmathiscomedy) May 18, 2024

WaPo and the AP have reported on it, the Biden-Harris HQ account keeps posting about it … if it's already illegal, it should sail right through without opposition. So why the resistance to codifying it?

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KEYWORDS: aliens; ap; illegals; loserjoe; rigging; twitchy; voting
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To: NetAddicted

Illegally entering my country to live off the taxpayers is illegal also. I don’t think the freeloaders really GAS about the gringos’ voting laws. We’re just a big bunch of morons to them. Remember, “Today we march, tomorrow we vote!” - Jose


21 posted on 05/19/2024 6:14:43 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When did WE decide to make America a UN 5-Star Asylum Paradise for Socialist losers?)
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To: NetAddicted

When did illegality ever stop the Rats?


22 posted on 05/19/2024 6:18:14 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: NetAddicted

Reading the title, I think the AP is saying it’s illegal for the GOP to talk about illegals voting. At least that’s what they want it to be.


23 posted on 05/19/2024 6:30:18 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: NetAddicted

Another incomprehensible Twitchy article that is nothing but a bunch of social media quotes patched together and passed off as journalism.


24 posted on 05/19/2024 6:36:53 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: bondjamesbond

The progression:

Step 1: That is a conspiracy theory. You are crazy for thinking it.

Step 2: That is extremely rare. You are trying to score political points over nothing.

Step 3: That is quite common. You are racist for noticing and being concerned.

Step 4: That is universal, and it’s a good thing.

On Illegal Alien voting, we are transitioning from Step 3 to Step 4.

Remember the catcalls “count all the votes”, “the GOP is suppressing votes”… all efforts to include illegal ballots. Dems know it’s the most ballots that win, not the most votes.


25 posted on 05/19/2024 6:37:58 AM PDT by TiGuy22
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To: NetAddicted

AP is gaslighting the public by essentially saying that liberals are “pissing on someone’s shoe, looking them in The face, and telling them “We are not passing on your shoe”


26 posted on 05/19/2024 6:46:18 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: NetAddicted

DEMOCRAT DEMOCRACY

You just have to check a box claiming you are a citizen?


27 posted on 05/19/2024 6:46:30 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: sten

18 U.S. Code § 611 (c)(3) is a loophole big enough to win Biden the election.

18 U.S. Code § 611 - Voting by aliens

(a) It shall be unlawful for any alien to vote in any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing a candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, unless—

(c)(3) Subsection (a) does not apply to an alien if the alien “reasonably” believed at the time of voting in violation of such subsection (a) that he or she was a citizen of the United States


28 posted on 05/19/2024 7:07:00 AM PDT by batazoid (Plainclothes cop at Capital during Jan 6 riot...)
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To: NetAddicted

What new hell is this ?


29 posted on 05/19/2024 7:14:35 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim (C)
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To: NetAddicted
Let's use the Jan 2025 Joint Session as it was intended to be used and Pelosi feared it would be used.

It is a violation of federal statutes for noncitizens to vote for federal offices and Congress has the power to easily enforce that law at the January Joint Session following each presidential election.

Let's remind our congressmen to enforce the law. Everyone is welcome to use my tagline!

30 posted on 05/19/2024 7:20:52 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Cert's of States allowing noncitizens to vote for fed offices should not be accepted on Jan 6, 2025.)
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To: NetAddicted

Not “even though” it’s illegal. “BECAUSE” it’s illegal.


31 posted on 05/19/2024 7:23:39 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Navarro didn't kill himself.)
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To: NetAddicted
From the article -
>We know that at least California and Minnesota will issue driver's licenses to illegal aliens.

That is the right of the State, but the Congress has the means at its Joint Session to not accept the results of any unlawful election to federal offices.

So long as such states make no effort to reasonably prohibit those noncitizen voters from voting for federal office the Congress can reject out of hand the results of any election.

See #30 above.

32 posted on 05/19/2024 7:32:50 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Cert's of States allowing noncitizens to vote for fed offices should not be accepted on Jan 6, 2025.)
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To: batazoid
18 U.S. Code § 611 (c)(3) is a loophole big enough to win Biden the election.

If one carefully reads the entire statute, § 611 does not allow noncitizens to vote; there is no ambiguity, no loophole.

33 posted on 05/19/2024 7:38:19 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Cert's of States allowing noncitizens to vote for fed offices should not be accepted on Jan 6, 2025.)
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To: NetAddicted

One can’t prove it because one is denied access to records, like immigration lists, green card holders, jury excusals, etc., but illegal aliens (and legal aliens) vote in large numbers.

In a decade, Virginia changed from solid red in 2004 to permanent blue by 2014 because of alien voting.

In Northern Virginia, where like Philadelphia, Chicago, Atlanta, LA, NYC, the democrats are in total control and run the registrars’ offices, the huge populations of illegal aliens and green card non-citizens have been registered by democrat operatives and their allies, like the SEIU.

And they vote more often by absentee or harvested balloting or mail in or early voting where they will never be confronted by poll watchers. Often, democrat operatives will do the voting for them and put the ballots in drop boxes.

Fraud is minimal on Election Day or in recounts, because the fraud takes place during the registration process. Once you are registered, you are home free. You can be illegal or green card or voting elsewhere or dead and no one will ever question it.


34 posted on 05/19/2024 7:51:32 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: oldbill

The once solid red Atlanta suburbs who gave us Newt Gingrich suddenly and flipped after 2012 and I am suspicious.


35 posted on 05/19/2024 8:14:05 AM PDT by dixie1202
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To: turfmann

Doesn’t AZ have separate ballots for federal elections because a judge told them they have to allow non-citizens to vote in federal elections?


36 posted on 05/19/2024 8:19:33 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: oldbill
...fraud takes place during the registration process. Once you are registered, you are home free. You can be illegal or green card or voting elsewhere or dead and no one will ever question it.

Exactly.

That is why fraud cannot be effectively corrected on a vote-by-vote or individual voter basis.

The Congress has to realize and declare whether a state's entire election process, including its registration of voters, was in violation of federal laws. If so, the entire results of such an election must be ignored; and the time for that is at the JS.

This January 2025 will be a reality check for our congressmen and our nation - it will be quite easy to declare whether a U.S. federal election was lawful or not.

37 posted on 05/19/2024 8:22:51 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Cert's of States allowing noncitizens to vote for fed offices should not be accepted on Jan 6, 2025.)
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To: NetAddicted

It’s illegal for “illegal aliens” to be in the US, hence the name.

What sort of idiots think they would refrain from voting illegally? Oh...Democrats.


38 posted on 05/19/2024 8:29:04 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: NetAddicted

What a doubke-standarded hypocritical headline!! “Gun violence” is a perennial talking point of the left, “even though it is illegal”, yet the gaslight media never calls this out in this way.

Despicable partisan hacks masquerading as journalists.


39 posted on 05/19/2024 8:33:03 AM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: bondjamesbond

Step 5: you need to be sent to a reeducation camp for objecting.


40 posted on 05/19/2024 8:34:41 AM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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