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California Supreme Court Rules 7-0 People Cannot be Detained for Trying to Evade Police Officers
Gateway Pundit ^ | May 11, 2024 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 05/11/2024 4:31:25 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man

The California Supreme Court declared that law enforcement officers cannot detain individuals because they attempt to avoid police contact. This unanimous decision has stirred a significant response from police unions, who argue that it will hamper their ability to maintain public safety effectively.

The court, in a 7-0 decision, stated that actions such as appearing to conceal oneself or acting nervously do not alone provide a sufficient basis for officers to detain individuals.

This was elaborated in an opinion by Justice Carol Corrigan, emphasizing that while such behaviors could be considered within a broader context, they do not meet the threshold of “reasonable suspicion of criminal activity” necessary to legally detain someone.

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TOPICS: Government; Local News; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: california; casupremecourt; constitution; crime; criminals; donutwatch; freedom; jbt; policedetaining
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To: Qwapisking

Edgy. Totally wrong, of course.

The truly rich have security and body guards.

Try your jungle bs and get curb stomped


41 posted on 05/11/2024 6:09:33 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: MinorityRepublican

> They’ve [the police] always acted that way. <

Something odd is definitely going on. When I was a young man, all my interactions with the police were fine. Sometimes I got a ticket. Sometimes I just got chewed out. But the cops were never rude or abusive.

Now I’m an old guy. I say “hello” to a cop while standing in a fast food line with him. I get no response. Just a look like I’m the dumbest person on Earth.

Yeah. Something has changed. And I don’t think it’s me.


42 posted on 05/11/2024 6:10:39 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: culper jr

The California Supreme Court declared that law enforcement officers cannot detain individuals because they attempt to avoid police contact

That doesn’t seem insane to me.


43 posted on 05/11/2024 6:12:44 PM PDT by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

CA giving criminal tool bags an escape.

Those whining about showing id, get over it. Maybe if you weren’t breaking the law it wouldn’t matter whether or not the cops knew who you were.

Tool bags can’t fathom they’re the problem not the cops


44 posted on 05/11/2024 6:13:40 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: marktwain

Amen!!!


45 posted on 05/11/2024 6:14:28 PM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: Leaning Right

I got pulled over by a sheriff’s deputy. He started calling me names and trying to egg me on. I just sat there and took the abuse. I wasn’t going to give him the satisfaction.


46 posted on 05/11/2024 6:15:05 PM PDT by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
I like it. IMG-8216
47 posted on 05/11/2024 6:16:38 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: marktwain

So if you’re walking down the street and you see a cop, so you turn around and walk away, and the cop yelled for you to stop. You’re okay with that.


48 posted on 05/11/2024 6:16:48 PM PDT by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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To: Leaning Right
Yeah. Something has changed. And I don’t think it’s me.

You're probably right.

FWIW, there's many stories of the brutality by the LAPD.

Back to your point, our politicians are screwing over the cops. So they feel like they are American troops in Afghanistan.

They feel exposed right now.

So I can understand that.

49 posted on 05/11/2024 6:22:42 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: TexasKamaAina

“I would think most Freepers, being anti-big government, would agree.”

We still have quite a few jackboot lickers and Thin Blue Lie believers around here.

Myself, I had nothing but problems with California law enforcement...even after we moved to Wyoming! So I see the need to put some of those thugs with badges on a leash.

No problems with Wyoming law enforcement since we moved to Wyoming. That’s been fifteen years now.


50 posted on 05/11/2024 6:23:08 PM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: sten

> Those whining about showing id, get over it. Maybe if you weren’t breaking the law it wouldn’t matter whether or not the cops knew who you were. <

Yes. But the key phrase there is “breaking the law”. If you broke the law, you must show ID. If you have been lawfully arrested, you must show ID. I don’t think a single person here would disagree with that.

But just acting “suspicious” is not breaking the law. It is not grounds for detaining someone, or demanding ID. That’s why the 4A is so important. It keeps us from devolving into a “Papers, please.” police state.


51 posted on 05/11/2024 6:23:28 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right

“I say “hello” to a cop while standing in a fast food line with him. I get no response. Just a look like I’m the dumbest person on Earth.”

This is the arrogant superiority complex I have spoke of here many times. You are just another dumb cow as far as they are concerned. And they have the same compassion for you as they would have for a dumb cow. None...


52 posted on 05/11/2024 6:23:58 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: sten

“Those whining about showing id, get over it.”

You would have LOVED Nazi Germany! “Papers please!” was something people would hear multiple times per day.


53 posted on 05/11/2024 6:25:51 PM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: Openurmind

Enjoy your own filth, filth.


54 posted on 05/11/2024 6:31:00 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC_Conspirator

“Enjoy your own filth, filth.”

I enjoy my legal rights. They are NOT “selective” as many would like to think.

This is a good step BACK to the presumption of innocence as it should be. In no way should citizens be presumed guilty until they prove their innocence. This is fascist ideology right there.


55 posted on 05/11/2024 6:39:56 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: MeganC

I think that tonight in Compton, Watts, and other less than savory parts of Cali, they’re probably having parties to celebrate that when they commit a crime, they’ll now NEVER be caught.


56 posted on 05/11/2024 6:45:40 PM PDT by hoagy62 (Evil won...again.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Evading is one thing. Eluding, or attempting to, is a felony in many, if not all, jurisdictions, and felony stops can get ugly.


57 posted on 05/11/2024 6:47:06 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: KC_Conspirator

I have been stopped on the street and told to put my cigarette out because she didn’t like cigarettes or smokers. Then she proceeded to ask for ID and “run me” with no probable cause of a criminal act at all.

You think this is perfectly acceptable? First it is a cigarette, soon it will be plastic cups... Enough is enough.


58 posted on 05/11/2024 6:49:24 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: gundog

Here is the thing. As someone already mentioned. It is a deceptive headline. The content states “individuals because they attempt to avoid police contact.”...

Not “evading”. I’m sure it does not prevent officers from interacting if they have reasonable probable cause that a crime has been committed.


59 posted on 05/11/2024 6:55:42 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind
Yeah...if I see cops doing cop things, I might cross the street, or turn around to avoid them. If they said “Hey, you!” I’d stop, and ask what they wanted.

I was on a grand jury, long ago, and the cop being questioned had pulled a young girl over for a traffic infraction. She got pissy, and said she didn’t want to talk to the cop. She rolled up her window and drove home. He followed her...she drove slowly, and obeyed the laws of the road. When she got out in front of her house, he cuffed her, and read her her rights. It was pretty cut and dried...we issued a true bill for attempting to elude. It probably got tossed before it went to trial, but she probably learned something. Some of the cop shootings these days are from people turning near-nothing events into felonies.

60 posted on 05/11/2024 7:10:41 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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