Here Comes World War III: NATO Chief Confirms Ukraine Will Become a Member of NATO — Pushing US Closer to Nuclear War with Russia (VIDEO)

Gateway Pundit ^ | 4-30-24 | Jim Hoft

[bimboeruption]

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg confirmed that Ukraine will become a member of NATO. This announcement was made during his visit to Kyiv to discuss the ongoing conflict and future support from the alliance with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

The NATO chief acknowledged delays in support that have had severe repercussions on the battlefield, emphasizing that although Ukraine has been outgunned, it is not too late for them to prevail with increased support on the way.

Stoltenberg revealed that following President Zelenskyy’s appeal at the recent NATO-Ukraine Council meeting, NATO members, including the United States, the UK, Germany, and the Netherlands, have pledged to intensify their support, with the US providing a new aid package worth over $60 billion, thanks to the Democrats and their comrade Mike Johnson, along with other RINOS.

The two leaders also discussed preparations for the upcoming NATO Summit in July, where plans for a greater NATO role in coordinating security assistance and training for Ukraine will be unveiled.

“I believe we also need a major, multi-year financial commitment to sustain our support. Moscow must understand: they cannot win. And they cannot wait us out,” Stoltenberg added.

Addressing Ukraine’s potential membership, Stoltenberg stated, “Ukraine’s rightful place is in NATO. Ukraine will become a member of NATO. The work we are undertaking now puts you on an irreversible path towards NATO membership, so that when the time is right, Ukraine can become a NATO member straightaway.” WATCH:

JUST IN: NATO Chief confirms Ukraine will become a member of NATO. pic.twitter.com/ftYOGR7bsn

— BRICS News (@BRICSinfo) April 30, 2024

While Ukraine’s ultimate NATO membership is seen as “inevitable,” the country currently faces challenges in meeting the full set of NATO membership criteria due to the ongoing conflict with Russia.

However, NATO and its members are actively engaged in discussions and negotiations to address these issues and potentially accelerate Ukraine’s path to membership. At the 2023 Vilnius summit, NATO decided that Ukraine could join the alliance without first completing a Membership Action Plan.

Earlier this month, Elon Musk cautioned that pushing for Ukraine’s NATO membership could lead the world towards a “nuclear apocalypse,” citing the 1983 film ‘The Day After’ as a grim reminder of the potential consequences.

This is literally how the nuclear apocalypse movie startshttps://t.co/g28nCvn3cO

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 5, 2024

Meanwhile, a Russian Security Council official warned last year that Ukraine’s admission into NATO could inevitably lead to a World War III scenario, echoing President Vladimir Putin’s warning against “nuclear blackmail” from the West.

Just last month, on March 2, 2024, Putin warned the West during his annual “The State of Russia” speech.

Obviously, the Biden regime ignored this warning.

Putin noted that while accusing Russia of plans to attack NATO allies in Europe, Western allies were “selecting targets for striking our territory” and “talking about the possibility of sending a NATO contingent to Ukraine.”

“We remember the fate of those who sent their troop contingents to the territory of our country,” the Russian leader said in an apparent allusion to the failed invasions by Napoleon and Hitler. “Now the consequences for the potential invaders will be far more tragic.”

In a two-hour speech before an audience of lawmakers and top officials, Putin cast Western leaders as reckless and irresponsible and declared that the West should keep in mind that “we also have the weapons that can strike targets on their territory, and what they are now suggesting and scaring the world with, all that raises the real threat of a nuclear conflict that will mean the destruction of our civilization.”

[OldHarbor]

NWO NeoCuck War Pigs love having some EuroWanker giving orders.

Woo hoo !

[Zhang Fei]

Ukraine ping

Andy Jackson: [You are an idiot. Read Tom Schelling before you start talking about how deterrence works.]

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A lefty academic talking in abstractions, an SPLC donor, the ultimate deep stater, impresses you? Why not read Herman Kahn? Many lefty nuclear war theorists attempted to confuse decision makers with gobbledygook to impress them with their own brilliance.

The reality is that it boils down to the basics - costs and benefits. A Russian nuclear attack against the US means the conversion of the Russian populace to a pile of ashes. No coming back from that, whatever Schelling may have to say. And that’s why Putin will hold his nuclear fire. Fear of consequences. In Schelling’s world, Russians may be fearless caricatures who have no fear of national extinction. In the real world, they definitely do. That’s why they stood by in the face of multiple reverses - Russians hate, but they also fear.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks ZF!

[AndyJackson]

You are finished here and your utter ignorance is on display to the world now. Tom Schelling was not a “a lefty academic talking in abstraction” and this assertion demonstrates your utter moronic and shallow understanding of nuclear deterrence and nuclear strategy.

[Zhang Fei]

Ukraine ping

flt bird: [Uh huh. And everybody we don’t like is Hitler. Its always the 1930s all over again. We must go around the world fighting every battle regardless of the cost in blood and treasure to our people or......the Nazis win.

Right. :rolleyes:]

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Countries have been taking sides against expansionist powers that weren’t Hitler for a very long time. It’s enough that they want to annex their neighbors. And Russia’s sheer size, 2x the next two largest countries combined, and 4x the size of European NATO, automatically makes it a threat.

WW2 was not the only war in which a country tried to expand its boundaries. Russia has done so for 600 years against its European and Asian neighbors. Its long and successful record of waging war and annexing its neighbors is how it got this big and precisely why any further moves in that direction must be countered.

[Zhang Fei]

Ukraine ping

Andy Jackson: [You are finished here and your utter ignorance is on display to the world now. Tom Schelling was not a “a lefty academic talking in abstraction” and this assertion demonstrates your utter moronic and shallow understanding of nuclear deterrence and nuclear strategy.]

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The problem with the appeals to authority you are peddling is that you lack the knowledge or insight to argue from first principles. What it really does boil down to is that nuclear parity means we have a mutual hostage situation in which a Russian nuclear strike against the US will lead to the extinction of Russia. No amount of ad hominem changes the reality of that outcome. The fear of extinction keeps Russian missiles in their silos.

[AndyJackson]

Let's talk fundamentals. Russia has more tactical and strategci systems than we do. They have a lot of options for escalation and escalation control that we don't. And the top of the ladder is not Russian annihilation, but mutual annihilation.

And your perspective is not supported by game theory on this issue. Like I said you are way out of your depth.

The ost fundamental issue of all is that nukes are used to defend vital national interest. We have none in Ukraine and so we have no reason to risk our own nuclear annihilation. There is no upside for our brinksmanship over Ukraine and all kinds of downside. Like I said you are shallow and out of your depth. Your analysis is really shallow and does not discuss all the things that any serious analyst would discuss in analyzing this scenario.

[AndyJackson]

And PS if you don’t even know who Tom Schelling was, you have no credibility on the subject whatsoever.

[Zhang Fei]

Ukraine ping

Andy Jackson: [Let’s talk fundamentals. Russia has more tactical and strategci systems than we do. They have a lot of options for escalation and escalation control that we don’t. And the top of the ladder is not Russian annihilation, but mutual annihilation.
And your perspective is not supported by game theory on this issue. Like I said you are way out of your depth.

The ost fundamental issue of all is that nukes are used to defend vital national interest. We have none in Ukraine and so we have no reason to risk our own nuclear annihilation. There is no upside for our brinksmanship over Ukraine and all kinds of downside. Like I said you are shallow and out of your depth. Your analysis is really shallow and does not discuss all the things that any serious analyst would discuss in analyzing this scenario.]

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It doesn’t get more fundamental than any first use of nukes always spirals towards all-out nuclear war. That’s the bottom line lesson. The other common sensical observation that anyone can figure out is that no amount of friendly conventional loss will come to anywhere near the numbers from a nuclear conflict. *Hitler* avoided chemical weapons because he felt the cost wasn’t worth the benefit. Game theory isn’t the real world. The principal benefit of teasing out all these outcomes is figuring out where this will lead without actually doing it for real. Since starting a nuclear conflict will lead to Russia’s extinction, it’s all but certain that Putin will not initiate a first strike no matter how Ukraine turns out.

[PIF]

Russians hate, but they also fear.

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also there is a strong element of mysticism mixed with that fear: Lately the ashes of Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov are prayed near - by the likes of Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu and others. Suvorov ashes were taken to the Front to bolster troop morale in the hopes that fewer would die, but were somewhat damage by a UKR artillery strike.

Now the ashes of Prince Grigory Potemkin-Tavrichesky will soon be sent to Crimea.

From a highly placed Russian blogger:
“Sergei Kuzhugetovich is confident that the ashes of Alexander Vasilyevich strengthened the morale of our military, and we are now moving forward at the front. Prince Potemkin can become the heavenly protector of Crimea, for which he did a lot during his lifetime.”
https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/3969

[SunkenCiv]

/bingo

[Vermont Lt]

Good thing the NATO chief has literally no say in this. Do people really believe that ALL NATO members would vote them in? They were years from qualifying before the war. They are still years from making the basic qualifications.

This is red meat bull-crap.

[RoseofTexas]

🙏🏻 PLEZZZZZZZZ NUKE DC first! They are just as corrupt as THESE EVIL EMPIRES china, Russia, North Korea, Venezuela etc and throw in Ukraine for good measure!

[Olog-hai]

There’s a big difference, particularly if one thinks that the US being in nuclear conflict with Russia equates to the “great tribulation” of Matthew 24:21, which centers around Jerusalem.

[Cobra64]

The last time I looked. Ukraine has no nukes.

[Mariner]

Russia will fight an existential war with any, and every country if necessary to ensure Ukraine does not join NATO.

It will not happen.

Either because the west is unwilling/unable to fight that existential war, or because Russia has incinerated every square inch of it.

They are all in.

[Mariner]

“Russian first use nuclear threats are empty ones not because the leaders are nice guys but because at minimum the Friends and Family nuclear targeting plan will take care of anyone remotely associated with them, permanently.”

Straw man.

Russia could nuke the entire Ukrainian military in the field...and NOBODY...not even the US...would do jack about it. Certainly they would not respond militarily. None of ‘em.

NATO would squeal and stand down.

[CodeJockey]

By contrast, it will be fine with the US if Russia places a military installation in Cuba.

[FLT-bird]

This is a case of irredentism borne of the very real discrimination and violence the Kiev government engaged in against Ukraine’s ethnic Russian minority. There had been no problem and the Russians had not invaded for a generation after the fall of the Soviet Union.

By the way, the Donbase is not only populated mostly by Russian speaking ethnic Russians, it was historically a part of Russia. It was the Commies in the 20th century who gave it to the Ukrainian SSR. Just like it was the Commies who gave another historically Russian area - the Crimea - to Ukraine in 1954.

When you have a much bigger neighbor right next door and you have a minority of those people in a region within your own country....maybe it would be smarter not to be brutal toward that minority. Just a thought.

[Governor Dinwiddie]

A teenage grease-ball named Gavrilo Princip triggered the deaths of hundreds of millions. He fired the shot that led to WW1, WW2, Hitler, Communist Russia, Red China, and a century of death and slaughter.

Didn't we learn anything about "alliances"?