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Donald Trump Is Considering a Vice Presidential Pick That Could Prove Very Controversial
Red State ^ | 01/17/2024 | Bonchie

Posted on 01/17/2024 8:58:39 PM PST by SeekAndFind

There's been a lot of talk about Donald Trump picking Nikki Haley as his vice president lately, and that hasn't exactly been a popular idea among most conservatives. To be fair, the speculation has been driven by the fact that the former president's campaign steadfastly refuses to rule it out while having no problem panning prospects like Vivek Ramaswamy. Something is afoot.

But is there another? According to a new report, Trump is seriously considering Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) for the spot. Of note is that RedState's own Ward Clark called this recently.

Scoop: Donald Trump is seriously considering House GOP Conference chair @EliseStefanik as his VP. He's been mulling the idea privately with allies, raving about Stefanik's loyalty.

Our exclu on the veepstakes. w/


@katiadoyl @scottwongDC https://t.co/HBcdhhRq7i— Brian Schwartz (@schwartzbCNBC) January 17, 2024

“She’s a killer,” Trump said, according to the person at the event. 

Ever since then, Trump and a growing group of allies have started to look more closely at Stefanik as a running mate, according to eight people familiar with the matter, including people in Trump’s orbit, Stefanik fundraising bundlers and former Trump administration officials. 

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“Stefanik is at the top,” said Steve Bannon, who was Trump’s chief strategist in the White House and the architect of his 2016 campaign strategy. 

“If you’re Trump, you want someone who’s loyal above all else,” a Republican campaign operative said. “Particularly because he sees Mike Pence as having made a fatal sin.”

Trashing Republicans isn't what we do here at RedState. If there's a disagreement, and there are plenty of those to be had within the GOP, we handle it through analysis, not name-calling. I say that to say that Stefanik's possible issue isn't who she is as a person, but it's her record. What's on paper is what's on paper.

If someone doesn't want Haley to be vice president, would they really want Stefanik to fill the role? She's just as supportive of Ukraine (and has supported every aid package passed so far), and her voting record is even more liberal on social issues and spending. Stefanik's Liberty Score clocks in at an "F." Her Heritage score is 56 percent for this term (i.e. she's not a recently reformed conservative), with the average Republican representative rating being an 85. 

Then there's the question of what Stefanik brings to the ticket. She's in a state that will not be competitive in 2024 (any suggestion to the contrary, just like in 2020, is delusional). She isn't liked by the conservative base of the party, but because she's so heavily connected herself to Trump over the last several years, she doesn't appeal to Trump skeptics either. What extra voters is she bringing along? A vice president who adds nothing to a ticket electorally would be a very odd pick.

That's not to say Stefanik hasn't had her moments. The questioning about antisemitism that she levied in a recent hearing helped get two far-left university heads fired, including Harvard's Claudine Gay (who was ultimately finished off by a plagiarism scandal). She's also facing censure (which will never pass) from the Democrats over allegations she helped "support" the January 6th "insurrectionists." 

Congressman Dan Goldman (NY-10) will today introduce a resolution to censure Congresswoman Elise Stefanik for conduct unbecoming of a member of Congress, including her consistent support of insurrectionists who attacked the United States Capitol on January 6th 2021.

Making Rep. Dan Goldman (D-NY) cry is always a positive in my book. Is that enough, though? Most Republicans have their redeeming qualities, but as an overall package, making Stefanik vice president would be a controversial move that could do more to divide than unite.

Is this just a blip on the radar, or is Trump seriously considering this? Who knows. I'm guessing his opinion on who to pick changes by the hour, and before this is all done, there may be some more surprises. 



TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: elisestefanik; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; ntsa; trump; vp
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To: BobL

As a Harvard Grad, Stefanik, in her grilling of the President of Harvard, Claudine Gay, exposed her policies as anti-semitic.

Her grilling was largely responsible for the downfall of both Presidents of UPenn and Harvard.


21 posted on 01/17/2024 9:48:31 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: BobL

She can’t do a thing with Trump’s judges—she’s a House member.


22 posted on 01/17/2024 9:48:58 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Golden Eagle

Considering you posted the lie that Trump was considering haley for vp

then posted as your evidence, links where you claimed Trump supporters said it was so...

But if you actually listened to the links that were posted by the desantis warroom, you would know the Trump people never said that,

I’d say your likely not telling the truth again, to kill support for Trump.


23 posted on 01/17/2024 9:54:18 PM PST by backpacker_c
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To: All
I checked out her 'Liberty Score'

She's SOLID in her votes against Illegal Immigration/Amnesty, SOLID Pro-Life, and SOLID 2A.

She lost points for 'Gay Rights' support, and voting for CRs and spending bills, but did not support the Omnibus

24 posted on 01/17/2024 10:00:52 PM PST by 11th_VA (Celebrate Climate Change !!!)
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To: backpacker_c
Considering you posted the lie that Trump was considering haley for vp

Neither Trump or any of his senior advisors will rule out Haley when directly questioned about it. This happened again just yesterday when Jason Miller said Vivek was not in consideration for VP, after he dropped out, but he again refused to rule out Haley.

Everyone knows you love to throw the term liar around endlessly, but unless you can show us where Trump or anyone on his team has said she’s out of the running, once again it is you who is the actual liar.

In fact you appear to have some sort of phobia over the word liar, probably because you’ve been nailed so many times, you constantly try to accuse others in an attempt to lessen the mark it’s left on you. It’s not a word I often use use but in your case it seems fully appropriate.

25 posted on 01/17/2024 10:11:08 PM PST by Golden Eagle (It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them that they've been fooled.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Tabloid level gossip.


26 posted on 01/17/2024 10:13:45 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: SeekAndFind

I oppose a female in general because they might become President. But she’s ok if we must. But I would prefer Tucker, or maybe Kid Rock.


27 posted on 01/17/2024 10:17:07 PM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is why/how Trump picked Jeff Sessions for AG. So idk.

It’s his flaw, if someone is praising him, he thinks they are great.

We know he wants to pick a woman because his poll numbers are so bad with women, especialy indpendent women. They hate the name calling but he doesn’t have to pick just any woman


28 posted on 01/17/2024 10:21:43 PM PST by TECTopcat
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To: SeekAndFind
Oh HELL NO! Nothing but a career politician with no other work experience. None. She might as well be a swamp creature. She has never lived anywhere else or done anything else.

I've had enough pandering to whose turn it is or what group os represented. Get a good candidate to be the next president. She ain't it. She may be a firebrand of some sort but that is not enough.

29 posted on 01/17/2024 10:30:38 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: Alberta's Child
reads like a deep state political hack.

BINGO! Give that man a cheroot.

30 posted on 01/17/2024 10:32:07 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: Golden Eagle

People just need look at the question I posed, then follow back to your post and listen to what the tweets said, vs what you claimed they said, to see you lied about the context and what was said.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4205351/posts?page=49#49


31 posted on 01/17/2024 10:38:55 PM PST by backpacker_c
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To: SeekAndFind
sH3 G0t TitZ! g0oD eNouGH foR mE!--The "brain" of the stable genius, AKA the little peepee that no one can see unless he was laying down on his back naked and his stomach was pushed out of the way.

NO MORE WOMEN IN POLITICS

32 posted on 01/17/2024 10:40:58 PM PST by Captainpaintball (America needs a Conservative DICTATOR if it hopes to survive. )
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To: SeekAndFind

President Trump must be reading my posts because I’ve been promoting her as VP for several months.


33 posted on 01/17/2024 10:43:49 PM PST by CaptainK ("If life's really hard, at least its short")
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To: Golden Eagle

There isn’t a chance in hell any Republican ever wins NY again Trump included.


34 posted on 01/17/2024 10:45:13 PM PST by MachIV
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To: SeekAndFind

Please not Haley!


35 posted on 01/17/2024 10:47:42 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: TECTopcat

>>”It’s his flaw, if someone is praising him, he thinks they are great.”

I don’t know about that. A lot of it is just Trump being diplomatic. Two days ago he was trashing Vivek and now he’s saying he’s honored by his endorsement. Has his opinion changed in two days? I doubt it. It’s just a matter of being mission focused.

If a former adversary tries to make peace with him, Trump will be publicly gracious. It doesn’t advance the cause to continue feuding at that point. That doesn’t necessarily mean his opinion has changed. Trump uses both the carrot and the stick. For a guy who’s supposed to be so petty, he shows surprisingly little vindictiveness towards those willing to mend fences with him. You see the same thing with his comments towards Putin and Xi. As he likes to say, getting along with them is a good thing, and yet both leaders knew they couldn’t push America around when Trump was president.


36 posted on 01/17/2024 10:48:37 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: SeekAndFind

I still like and think it will be Kari Lake!


37 posted on 01/17/2024 11:06:21 PM PST by fightin kentuckian
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To: edie1960

Loyalty is number one in my book.

I posted a few days ago, my opinion, that it should be Ben Carson.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4210391/posts

There were many great comments, and in fact, I came away thinking that Carson scores high in the loyalty column, he scores low in the energy, dog fighting column.

I think he, and his wife, would be a great ambassador somewhere, or head of CDC.

I think Trump looks at VP as not accounting anything in terms of getting votes, but rather a position that will shake things up.

Tucker Carlson, may still be the pick.


38 posted on 01/17/2024 11:42:39 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: SeekAndFind

Always thought Ben Carson was his best available choice.

Otherwise a young conservative Hispanic VP may swing some votes his way and set up 2028, but don’t know of a potential.

Don’t bother trying to swing women with a female VP hasn’t worked in the past.


39 posted on 01/17/2024 11:45:34 PM PST by MagillaX
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To: SeekAndFind

“Donald Trump Jr., the former president’s eldest son, has said he would go to “great lengths” to assure Haley doesn’t join the Trump ticket.

Even Haley herself has publicly remained focused on defeating Trump, playing down the possibility of a No. 2 role without, as opponent Ron DeSantis has often noted, definitively ruling it out.

“First of all, I don’t play for second — I never have,” Haley told a voter last week, “and I’m not going to start now.””

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-picked-vice-president-campaign-backtracks/story?id=106297995


40 posted on 01/17/2024 11:45:38 PM PST by Beowulf9
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