Why are Some Evolutionists Opposed to Evolution

PatriotandLiberty ^ | 12/23 | ThinkApologetics

[spirited irish]

In the book 40 Questions About Creation and Evolution (40 Questions Series) by Kenneth D. Keathley and Mark F. Rooker, Kregal Publications, 2014, include a chapter called “Why are Some Evolutionists Opposed to Evolution.” In this chapter, the authors mention the work of James Shapiro (author of Evolution: A View from the 21st century), Jerry Folder and Massimo Piatelli-Palamarini, (authors of What Darwin Got Wrong), and Thomas Nagel (author of Mind and Cosmos: Why the Materialist Neo- Darwinist Conception of Nature Is Almost Certainly False). These authors have written about the shortcomings of the Neo-Darwinian paradigm that has dominated academia for so long. They say the following:

“Cognitive scientists Jerry Fodor and Massimo Piattelli-Palmarini published a critique of Darwinism provocatively named What Darwin Got Wrong. They begin by declaring that they are atheists, not just run-of-the-mill atheists, but “outright, card-carrying, signed-up, dyed-in-the-wool, no-holds-barred atheists.

[ifinnegan]

I am a robot, but you are clearly a looney.

Why do you have such weird thoughts?

[muir_redwoods]

She’s doing alright but not as well as the pastor$ at megachurche$

[muir_redwoods]

If you want to stay on topic, I’ll discuss. Evolutionary biology doesn’t discuss origins. It doesn’t discuss gas chromatography, Korean cuisine, European football and most other unrelated topics.

[muir_redwoods]

You’ll note I didn’t

[muir_redwoods]

So you believe in seconds and minutes but not hours, days, weeks, months,years,centuries or millennia,noted

[Tell It Right]

Mankind has been recording history for millennia. Have we recorded lots of macro-evolution? And the large Cambrian explosion shows us that 50% to 80% of all known phyla suddenly appearing in the fossil record within a brief 500K to 1 million year period (depending on who you ask). A million years seems like a long time — it’s longer than even Biden has been alive. lol But that’s way short when natural selection demands speciation to take place gradually across billions of years. Basically the math of natural selection is off by a factor of over a thousand.

And that’s just one of multiple Cambrian explosions. So you’ll forgive me if I’m hesitant to jump in on the Darwin bandwagon.

[cuz1961]

stay on topic ?

what ?,

so you can avoid the point that disproves evolution of any kind ?

you progs never admit defeat

cons who never give up the con

you cant say anything evolved if you cant explain how everything came into existance

you want to dazzle with b.s.

this is the logic you godless progs spout

first there was nothing

then nothing exploded

nothing then became everything

and when pointed out how insane that is

how so utterly stupid a child could see it

yoy godless progs want to jump to step 2 or 5764 cuz you cant defend step 1

on topic ?

spit

freaking conman.

[cuz1961]

unrelated topics ?

so , in your world,

first there was nothing
then nothing exploded

and nothing became

european football and everything else.

unrelated ?

your logic sucks.

origin is the 1st step in any topic.

unrelated ?. pure infantile b.s.

no, you just refuse to acknowledge what ever proves you wrong,

everything you deny, like voter fraud, bioweapon vax, commie infiltration, pervs preying on kids in school,

everything you dont like is hittler, unrelated, debunked,.racist, islamophobic, unrelated, blah blah blah.

spit.

[ChessExpert]

Correct.

“Evolutionary biology doesn’t take a position on origins.” Chemical evolution doesn’t take a position on evolutionary biology either. The two are often run together by proponents of evolution as simply “evolution.”

I’ve never seen a proponent of evolution rebuked for running the two (chemical evolution and biological evolution) together.

When a critic of evolution makes the same “mistake,” the response is usually different. He may be told that he is “ignorant” (intended as an insult) for not knowing that abiogenesis is different from evolution. It’s a gotcha moment.

Thw double standard is wrong.

[muir_redwoods]

I realize that without insults you can make no response so insult away, remrmber the critique by fools is high praise.

Now if you think my position is wrong because I can’t explsin origins, kindly explsin the origin of your gods.

Thank. You.

[muir_redwoods]

Mankind’s recorded history is a mere blip compared to the history of evolution. Try again.

[cuz1961]

my argument of the fallacy of

first there was nothing

then

nothing exploded

and

nothing became everything

doesnt rest on any insults

( nice typical diversionaryprog try)

thank you for admiting you have no proof for origins and thus zero proof for any kind of evolution.

Also thanks for bringing up God ,

( although we all recognize the hidden accusation of “ignorant superstitious simpleton “ those who fancy themselves as the intelectually superior “ i am science” fraudci type always resort to /-)

darwinism, secular humanism , .IS a religion.

a pagan satanic religion.

we just have a different God we beleive in.

again

Evolution = 0

Creation = 1

game
set
match

btw, as we see the end times prophecies shaping up exactly the way the bible predicted, it means your time to admit your inherited sin nature, repent and accept the grace and gift of salvation on the name of Jesus Christ is getting very short.

i beleive if you ask God with an honest heart if He exists, He will reveal himself to you , and then you can accept His free gift of forgiveness and be saved .

if you dont, well,, you can ask Him to explain creation at the great white thrown judgement seat and he will explain that, and eternal hell as well.

please consider this , and take my challenge of reading Mere Christianity.

a good read for those who want to disprove the existence of the judeochristian God

the book

Mere Christianity was written

by a famouse x atheist

C.S. Lewis.

[muir_redwoods]

You called me a fig, if that’s not an insult in your book, I’ll be happy to refer to you as such from now on. Now listen Prog, I take no position on origins. Neither does molecular biology. If you want to discuss the validity of evolution as clearly supported by molecular biology, that’s fine. I’m not interested in discussing Bronze Age mythology but feel free to continue to rant.
Please

However

Learn

How

To

Manage

Line

Spacing.

[cuz1961]

hey, learn to stay on topic .

you cant debate evolution if you cant explain where the stuff you say evolved came from.

you just weasel out of explaining that.

THAT is the chatachteristic of a prog.

the rest of your whine is just more of the same diversion fron one fact.

evolution didnt and cant happen.

deal with it.

/-)

[muir_redwoods]

It’s as close to a fact as science has ever had. Your ignorance is your little blankey, cuddle with it.

[cuz1961]

claiming intellectual superiority is the only thing you

” fraudici i am science “

types have for security

its your comfort blankey not mine.

man up and own it.

lets review your blankey shall we ?

first there wad nothing

then

nothing exploded

and

nothing evolved into everything.

[cuz1961]

lets review your blankey shall we ?

first there was nothing

then

nothing exploded

and

nothing evolved into everything

[muir_redwoods]

You really can’t grasp that neither you nor I can speak with any confidence about the origins of things. You have a Bronze Age myth, a mere hypothesis. I read about and consider Pere Lemaitre’s theory of the Big Bang.

What I do have is rock solid evidence for speciation. There is great, near undeniable evidence that humans and chimps had a common evolutionary ancestor, neither human nor chimp. You have an old book.

I really don’t need you to become educated. I’d be very satisfied if you simply learned proper line spacing when you make your ignorant replies.

[cuz1961]

you are proud and deluded.

read Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis and expand your education a little more.

spit.

myth.

you will wish it was a myth.

you have no rock solid anything, just hypothisis and theory.

genetic drift of existing genetic info is not evolution of any kind.

i could direct you to phds in chem and biology that would destroy all your dazzeling self deluded bull shit and you would still refuse to concede being wrong in any way.

you are a stiff necked academic secular humanist stupid on purpose prog with your nose in the air calling everyone who doesnt buy your contrived mess ignorant.

go ahead, burn in your pride.

( knocking dust off sandels now )

/-)

[cuz1961]

and i will format how

ever

i

like.