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New probe into College Football Playoff after Florida State snub
CFB-HQ on FanNation ^ | Dec 13, 2023 | James Park

Posted on 12/13/2023 11:53:36 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

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To: wrcase
Then keep taxpayer funded institutions out of football. Let them become private sector minor league franchises.

That gets my vote, as long as there are no federal loans for students and no federal monies going to them.

61 posted on 12/14/2023 10:34:30 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: wrcase

That’s kind of grey here. Yes MOST of the colleges are government funded. But not all of them. And the athletic section isn’t. And the NCAA isn’t. And playoff system isn’t. So for the most part it isn’t a taxpayer funded institution. And isn’t the government’s business.


62 posted on 12/14/2023 10:42:10 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Gee I sure am glad this new way of doing bowl games has ended all controversy


63 posted on 12/14/2023 11:28:04 AM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: discostu

Every university in the playoffs is a public university. I’m sorry, I don’t believe that not one penny of public money is spent on the players, staff, or the infrastructure. You’re going to have to prove it to me.


64 posted on 12/14/2023 11:29:39 AM PST by wrcase
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To: dangus
The absurdity of 2017 was worse than what you posted. The tiebreaker wasn’t a problem. Alabama and Auburn were tied in the SEC West with 7-1 conference records, and Auburn won the division on the strength of their head-to-head victory over Alabama in the final week of the regular season.

What made the 2017 postseason so ludicrous was that all indications are that Alabama coach Nick Saban deliberately threw that “Iron Bowl” game by making a cynical calculation about his team’s postseason prospects. He figured that playing in the SEC title game wouldn’t gain Alabama anything in the final playoff selection process, and was just an opportunity for one SEC team to face another potential loss. So he took the loss to Auburn in the final week, rested his top players for that game and the next week when Georgia and Auburn played in the SEC championship game, and went into the playoffs in a better position than any of the other three teams that DID play in a conference championship game (Clemson, Oklahoma and Georgia).

Alabama never should have been allowed to play for the national title in 2017. If it were up to me, a team would be ineligible to contend for the national championship if it didn’t win its own conference championship.

65 posted on 12/14/2023 11:34:38 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: wrcase

It kind of depends on who you ask?

https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/analysis/2020/11/20/do-college-sports-make-money/


66 posted on 12/14/2023 11:35:27 AM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: DesertRhino
What you describe there is an inevitable problem in a sports league with so many teams, and a schedule that is too short for everyone to play each other.

The NFL had the same problem until they introduced the wild card teams to address the injustice of having 10-6 or even 9-7 division winners make the playoffs while an 11-5 or 12-4 team would not qualify if it was in the same division as a dominant 14-2 (or better) team.

67 posted on 12/14/2023 11:39:06 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: wrcase

I don’t have to prove anything. We already know that in the big schools, the ones that make bowl games, football is self sustaining. Between tickets, merch, TV contracts, and boosters it pays for itself.


68 posted on 12/14/2023 11:44:05 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu

You’re right, you don’t have to prove anything to me. I also don’t have to believe you.


69 posted on 12/14/2023 11:49:26 AM PST by wrcase
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To: Alberta's Child

Good point. Hadn’t considered that angle.


70 posted on 12/14/2023 11:51:02 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up.)
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To: wrcase

And thus why I won’t bother. I already know, once you said it was the government’s business, you’re living in a world without facts. So presenting them to you, which I actually did, is a waste of time. You’re going to believe your wrong thing one way or the other. So we’re done. Bye


71 posted on 12/14/2023 11:53:06 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Alberta's Child

I agree with the notion that if you can’t win your conferenced, why are you playing to win the national title? Imagine in pro sports if someone said, “you lost your conference, but we still figure you’re more likely to win the Superbowl”!

OTOH, if a team rests its best players, I don’t take that as corruption. How often do pitchers start throwing 6 innings instead of 8 once they clinch? Or teams start letting pitchers take 5 days of rest between starts? I think they need to live with the consquences if they get burned, but even WITH that loss, I think both Georgia and Alabama clearly had ALREADY earned a national title chance.

If there were any evidence that Alabama only beat Clemson because of the extra time off, you might have a bit of a leg to stand on. But come on, everyone had multiple weeks to get ready, and they drubbed Clemson, which was no suprise. I mean come on, Clemson lost to Syracuse.

If there WERE someone that had a right to be angry, it was Central Florida, who didn’t have a chance to face many good teams but was undefeated.


72 posted on 12/14/2023 12:13:58 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
Resting starters when you have already clinched a playoff berth is not the issue.

The corruption in 2017-18 was that Alabama knew it would get a playoff spot among the top four teams in the country even if they didn’t play in the SEC title game. That should never happen. Rewarding teams for failure flies in the face of everything sports is supposed to stand for. Rewarding teams for DELIBERATE failure is even worse.

73 posted on 12/14/2023 12:36:13 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: RainMan

My bad...sorry...

Thats what I get for not looking to be sure...


74 posted on 12/14/2023 12:42:33 PM PST by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: Round Earther

North Alabama beat Chattanooga, who Alabama scheduled.

And the Crimson Tide was evidently able to impress the Committee with that impressive win (the week before they almost lost to 6-6 Auburn.)


75 posted on 12/14/2023 3:48:45 PM PST by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: wrcase

That would be FSUs choice


76 posted on 12/14/2023 4:16:17 PM PST by Sir_Humphrey (The “only Trumpers” are just as damaging to the conservative cause as are the “never Trumpers”)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Well...this type of rhetoric didn’t age well.


77 posted on 12/30/2023 9:29:53 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Correct. And now more than validated.

In fact, Kentucky defeating Louisville also helped it as it lowered FSU’s win over Louisville as a quality win.


78 posted on 12/30/2023 9:32:02 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: srmanuel
Outside of the playoff teams, the bowl games have taken on a new level of meaning nothing, when the teams on the field are usually missing major parts of their team.

Glorified exhibition games. It's like watching preseason games.

79 posted on 12/30/2023 9:33:09 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Georgia pummeled FSU in the Orange Bowl 63-3, it was a sad exhibition of football when FSU was missing a third of their team and most of their front line players including their top two QBs, the outcome doesn’t really prove anything about the season


80 posted on 12/30/2023 10:13:42 PM PST by srmanuel
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