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Biden Sending U.S. General and Staff to Kiev To Provide “Long-Term Advice” To The Vietkrainian Army
Citizen Watch Report ^

Posted on 12/12/2023 9:48:08 AM PST by davikkm

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To: davikkm; RitaOK; thinden; bitt

Several targets to help start WW3?

Tell me, do these generals actually WANT to go on this junket?

Biden: “And, which ever-one of youse survives, bring me back my got-tamm 10% from that Zelensky b*itch!”


21 posted on 12/12/2023 10:07:46 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We" I speak of, -not for-, "We the People")
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To: All
OTOH, the Biden Crime Family is all attiter....Biden is
going to finance the US “rebuilding" of war-torn Ukraine.

Taxpayers will get the bills, and all the Bidens get a piece of the billions.

"Happy days are here, again."

22 posted on 12/12/2023 10:10:27 AM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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To: davikkm
"double down on failure."

Well, if we just look around we'll find that's pretty much what the demoncrats always do.. I don't think it's an accident, I think it's the plan.!

23 posted on 12/12/2023 10:19:01 AM PST by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: davikkm

Early in the war, the russkies blew up a NATO staging area on the very western edge of Ukeland with hypersonic missiles, killing dozens [some say hundreds] of foreign ‘volunteers’. This is when Ukeland had full air defense and they still couldn’t even see it coming.

It was a warning to the border countries. Stage NATO intervention, we can reach out and touch you.

There will be no NATO intervention coming from any bordering nation.


24 posted on 12/12/2023 10:20:53 AM PST by TonyinLA (I don't have sufficient information to formulate a reasoned opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: Williams

The Vietnam War was never “ won”
At least not by us

The North Viets were proxies for the Chicoms and we just never had the stomach for going there to take on China for dominance of the South China Sea littoral

The war was settled diplomatically between Kissinger and the Chinese, the Viets and surrounding “ domino countries” that fell were freed to purge all opposition to the communist party and warlords that took political power, and millions of civilians abandoned by the US in the deal perished trying to escape by sea, were sent to reeducation centers or to labor in the countryside, a strategy Mao used in China to dismantle the urbanized educated and intellectual classes.


25 posted on 12/12/2023 10:30:27 AM PST by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: davikkm

They have our corrupt government over the barrel..
Biden can’t do any clear thinking.. Barry has 5 mansions.. Where did he get money for those


26 posted on 12/12/2023 10:36:01 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: Williams

“...Vietnam was won...”

Yeah, but not by the US. The United States entered Vietnam with the principal purpose of preventing a communist takeover of the region because of a treaty with the French when they bailed. In that respect, it failed: the two Vietnams were united under a communist banner in July 1976. Neighbouring Laos and Cambodia similarly fell to communists. And we got chased out of there, (sound familiar like Afghanistan, maybe) as domestic unrest in the region and the financial cost of war made peace—and troop withdrawals—a necessity, not a choice.

We never had a chance in that one. It was destined to end the way it did. All we did was tread water and get people killed, ours, the biet, and theirs.

wy69


27 posted on 12/12/2023 10:46:01 AM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: davikkm

Very BAD idea.


28 posted on 12/12/2023 11:14:32 AM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: silverleaf

North Vietnam was a Russian client. There is no love lost between Vietnam and China.


29 posted on 12/12/2023 12:14:48 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: davikkm

These are not just Democrat corrupt entities, this is UniParty hacks.

It’s been said before and it deserves to said again. Neither Russia or Ukraine will be allowed to end this war.

The only possibility to end this war is a President Trump.


30 posted on 12/12/2023 12:58:51 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Seruzawa
China in the Second Indochina War

“The People's Republic of China provided significant support for North Vietnam when the U.S. started to intervene, included through financial aid and the deployment of hundreds of thousands of military personnel in support roles. China said that its military and economic aid to North Vietnam and the Viet Cong totaled $20 billion (approx. $160 billion adjusted for inflation in 2022) during the Vietnam War; included in that aid were donations of 5 million tons of food to North Vietnam (equivalent to North Vietnamese food production in a single year), accounting for 10–15% of the North Vietnamese food supply by the 1970s.

In the summer of 1962, Mao Zedong agreed to supply Hanoi with 90,000 rifles and guns free of charge, and starting in 1965, China began sending anti-aircraft units and engineering battalions to North Vietnam to repair the damage caused by American bombing. In particular, they helped man anti-aircraft batteries, rebuild roads and railroads, transport supplies, and perform other engineering works. This freed North Vietnamese army units for combat in the South. China sent 320,000 troops and annual arms shipments worth $180 million. The Chinese military claims to have caused 38% of American air losses in the war.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War

And by virtue of its common border, provided logistics lines of personnel and weapons from within China that were immune to US interdiction.

Yes the Viets played both the Chinese and the Russians…but 300,000 deployed advisors and $160 billion in aid ( adjusted to modern inflation) certainly qualified Viet as a Chicom client

31 posted on 12/12/2023 1:34:45 PM PST by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: davikkm

Decoded: Have to get the money out of the banks and get stored
in off shore accounts before Putin’s guys show up.


32 posted on 12/12/2023 2:06:41 PM PST by Vaduz (....)
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To: Nextrush

🎶Insane in the Ukraine 🎶


33 posted on 12/12/2023 3:45:26 PM PST by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjam Franklin.)
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To: silverleaf

The Viet Cong were client states of the Ruskies, not China.
Vietnam has a long history of hatred for the Chinese.
Kissinger was playing an angle on the Soviets with China, neither of who really cares much for each other.
That’s what Nixon’s opening China was all about.


34 posted on 12/12/2023 3:50:28 PM PST by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjam Franklin.)
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To: RedMonqey

So OK
300,000 Chinese troops and advisors. $160 billion in aid ( in current value) constant movement of troops and supplies across the borders ( we watched this with no interdiction in China) and the Chinese shooting down over 5,000 US aircraft out of over 10K US losses….was a symbol of mutual hatred between China and Vietnam

Got it


35 posted on 12/12/2023 4:49:39 PM PST by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: silverleaf

You’re mistaking Russian aid for Chinese. True some of it came through China but it was Soviet technology that was used against American aircraft over Hanoi.

China was an ally of the Viet Cong earlier in its fight against French colonialism but by the time America was heavily involved in the war China withdrew it’s support as Russia was seen as more of a threat than American involvement in Vietnam.
Russian military aid began pouring through Hai Phong harbour and that’s rest the US military targeted it to impede soviet cargo ships.
And true China did send some support troops but US forces never encountered nor captured any Chinese nationals in any reported numbers


36 posted on 12/13/2023 10:12:45 AM PST by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjam Franklin.)
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Copy and post my link.
Contact the source to dispute their information.


37 posted on 12/13/2023 11:46:06 AM PST by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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