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New: Astonishing Number of Black Voters Would Bail on Biden for Trump, Including BLM Leader
Red State ^ | 11/28/2023 | Nick Arama

Posted on 11/28/2023 6:15:34 PM PST by SeekAndFind

We've seen a lot of folks fleeing the Democrats in the past few years, and it's little surprise given the poor results that Joe Biden has delivered to the country.

There have been reports for a while now about a significant portion of the black vote moving away from Democrats and Joe Biden. Now, every election, there seems to be big speculation on that. But the New York Times noted an astonishing number that should make everyone sit up and take notice.

In a poll of residents in battleground states by The New York Times and Siena College this fall, 22 percent of Black voters said they would support former president Donald Trump over President Biden in a hypothetical 2024 matchup.

For comparison's sake, in the close race in 2020, former President Donald Trump allegedly got eight percent of the black vote. 

Twenty-two percent would be a tidal wave and likely spell doom for Biden. I'm not sure I believe the number is that high. But if it's anywhere close, Biden's goose may be cooked, as Cook Political's David Wasserman explained. 

This leaves out the simple explanation that NYT/Siena found: Trump’s strength among nonwhites is almost entirely concentrated among voters who don’t show up in midterms/off years but will in ‘24.

Agree Trump unlikely to hit >20% w/ Black voters, but even 15% would doom Biden. https://t.co/3GwOOpa832— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) November 22, 2023

Fox's Lawrence Jones discussed the phenomenon with Mark Fisher. Fisher should have some insight because he's a black former Democrat who is now for Trump. He also was co-founder of a BLM chapter in Rhode Island. So that's quite a switch. 

NEW: Black Lives Matter Rhode Island co-founder Mark Fisher is supporting Donald Trump for the 2024 election because Democrats are “not for us.”

Didn't see that one coming 🔥🔥

“We’re not stupid. The brothers are not stupid. We understand when someone's for us and when someone… pic.twitter.com/6IBso13lQk— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) November 28, 2023

Jones says he's seen this movement when he's talking to men in the barbershop. He asked Fisher what he thought the reason was for the big movement. 

Fisher said he thought it was "the duplicity of the Democrats." 

“We’re not stupid. The brothers are not stupid. We understand when someone's for us and when someone is not and it's obvious that the Democratic party is not for us.”

Fisher said that the Democrats' policies strike at the heart of the black family and the nuclear family. How true that is, and a great point to make. 

“A lot of people are misinformed [about Trump]," Fisher said. "They don't really understand because they don't educate themselves on Donald Trump as a person and his history.” So true — Democrats are fed a constant diet of "fine people" and "racist" by the liberal media, despite that not tailoring with reality. 

“Personally I love the man," Fisher said. "I mean, how could you not like a real man? How could you not relate to someone like that?”

Jones made the point that if it's 22 percent in the battleground states, it's probably more than just the men making the move. Jones asked Fisher what he would say if Trump were watching the show, and Fisher said he would "Stump for Trump." 

Fisher said he wanted to bring all the groups together: "one nation, indivisible, under God."  

Democrats have to be tearing their hair out. 



TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2024; apply4welfare; biden; blacks; donatefreerepublic; jimknows; trump

1 posted on 11/28/2023 6:15:34 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

So only 100% of the black vote instead of the usual 120%


2 posted on 11/28/2023 6:19:54 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eye)
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To: Organic Panic

They can keep the BLM leader.


3 posted on 11/28/2023 6:30:14 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: SeekAndFind

Black Racisssssssssssssists!


4 posted on 11/28/2023 6:32:21 PM PST by gathersnomoss (End This Attack On Justice.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I will take all the votes for Trump he can get, even from people I do not like.


5 posted on 11/28/2023 6:33:14 PM PST by Fai Mao ( Starve the Beast and steal its food)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a negotiating ploy the blacks are using to beat more money out of the rats.


6 posted on 11/28/2023 6:53:07 PM PST by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t believe it for a second.

The free shit crowd grows at a rate proportional to the number of them, which is the definition of exponentially.


7 posted on 11/28/2023 6:54:55 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SeekAndFind

Not a single black female referenced in the article. That’s in keeping with the findings since 2019. 20+% support by black men, 3% support by black women.


8 posted on 11/28/2023 6:54:59 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Which is why more and more black men want nothing to do with black women.


9 posted on 11/28/2023 6:55:52 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
... more and more black men want nothing to do with black women.

So they hook up with stupid liberal white women? Even white guys are avoiding them.

10 posted on 11/28/2023 7:12:45 PM PST by rllngrk33 (The soap box and ballot box have failed, time for the bullet box is fast approaching.)
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To: rllngrk33
So they hook up with stupid liberal white women? Even white guys are avoiding them.

Well there's someone for everyone, LOL!

11 posted on 11/28/2023 7:55:52 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"New: Astonishing Number of Black Voters Would Bail on Biden for Trump, Including BLM Leader"

I guess even 'BLM Leaders' occasionally stop to put gas in their Escalades.

12 posted on 11/28/2023 8:24:00 PM PST by The Duke (Why do I think that the cynicism gene is going to be prevalent in future generations?)
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To: lepton
3% support by black women.

More like 1% support by black women.

13 posted on 11/28/2023 8:26:07 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
More like 1% support by black women.

That only proves they're dumber than liberal white women.

14 posted on 11/28/2023 9:08:57 PM PST by rllngrk33 (The soap box and ballot box have failed, time for the bullet box is fast approaching.)
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To: rllngrk33

Yes and no. They get a lot of free stuff from the government.


15 posted on 11/28/2023 9:16:42 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: rllngrk33

I’ve dated black men. Many just want a sane woman who doesn’t have a temper and who has a good relationship with her father.


16 posted on 11/28/2023 9:24:13 PM PST by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: CheshireTheCat

“I’ve dated black men. Many just want a sane woman who doesn’t have a temper and who has a good relationship with her father.”
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Just like every white guy out there (and, presumably, every guy of every ethnic groups, crazies of all groups excluded). Men just don’t want to go out with or marry a psycho or someone divorced from practical reality. Beyond that, most guys are pretty accepting of wide variations in other characteristics.


17 posted on 11/28/2023 10:46:11 PM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Fai Mao

I’m not kidding myself. I know that other Freepers agree with your sentiment, but hopefully you can find it in your heart to appreciate the Black vote for other reasons and not just because we will turn states red in 2024! We love the Lord too! And many of us work in menial jobs earning low pay but we help that forgotten piece of the economy. Please try to see us as a positive in the American landscape.


18 posted on 11/29/2023 12:51:33 AM PST by Eurydice
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To: HIDEK6

No we’re not grifters. We really love the man!


19 posted on 11/29/2023 12:54:33 AM PST by Eurydice
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To: SeekAndFind

I prefer they stay home election day rather than decrease their vote for Biden and the Democrats from 96% to 94%


20 posted on 11/29/2023 1:34:41 AM PST by chuckee
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