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Living in the USA vs Europe
Free Republic ^ | 11/22/2023 | chicagoconservative27

Posted on 11/22/2023 9:21:39 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

This week at work a team member was talking about how her 23 year old son who is done with college is itching to move to Germany because he is tired of the USA and what is going on here.

Two other co-workers chimed in saying how everything is wonderful in Germany and that so much is "free" and one the lady has a friend who moved to Germany from the USA and she loves it because of once again all the "free" they get.

I wanted to explode and tell them nowhere is like the USA and that they should be thankful. Europe is not all its cracked up to be but they they want the USA to became Europe for all the "free" they will get.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: europe; germany; living; moving; usa
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1 posted on 11/22/2023 9:21:39 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

We can hope the fool does move to Germany and takes along many others.


2 posted on 11/22/2023 9:26:36 AM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

My youngest Daughter says she is moving to Italy in a year. I don’t think she is thinking this through. For all of our country’s faults, she is still living in the greatest country on the planet. Italy is in a state of perpetual chaos financially. I hope she comes to her senses before she makes a very big mistake.


3 posted on 11/22/2023 9:29:09 AM PST by SCConservative58
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To: SCConservative58

Amen to that


4 posted on 11/22/2023 9:29:27 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27; pepsionice
I lived in Germany for 5+ years while in the Army in the '70's, but that was 40+ years ago.

I'm pinging a FReeper who's retired military and lives in Germany for his input.

5 posted on 11/22/2023 9:30:48 AM PST by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: PROCON

Thanks


6 posted on 11/22/2023 9:31:30 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I hope the person moves to Germany. One less person looking for a free ride in the USA.


7 posted on 11/22/2023 9:35:01 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

There’s no free lunch. Someone is working to pay for that — mainly each citizen through taxes.

Germany has taken in a lot of Muslims, and now they will take Palestinian refugees. That may cause some social issues. And if the U.S. escalates the war against Russia via Ukraine, there could be war problems. Not a good time to move to Europe, I think.


8 posted on 11/22/2023 9:38:31 AM PST by KittyKares
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Let them go.

Seeing is believing.

I think it was Douglas Murray who said the best thing you can do to cultivate gratitude toward what you have is to see what it is like without.

9 posted on 11/22/2023 9:38:39 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
On a visit to London a couple years ago working with some missionaries. Asked they their long term plans. Said they wanted to move to France because healthcare was “free”.

Didn’t even try to point out how much in taxes that free stuff cost.

They’d become indoctrinated. Reminded me of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

10 posted on 11/22/2023 9:40:21 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Crazy


11 posted on 11/22/2023 9:40:57 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“I wanted to explode and tell them nowhere is like the USA...”

No, no, let them go, encourage them. Tell them to tear up their passports so they aren’t tempted to come back.


12 posted on 11/22/2023 9:41:23 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It cracks me up how many Zero-G tuba players are wanting to move to a Europe soon to be run by Muslim Terrorists and everyone else on the friggin’ planet is sneaking into America. Tells me that those Zero-Gs trannies aren’t very bright.


13 posted on 11/22/2023 9:50:02 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It wasn't "genocide" when Hamas did it. Hypocrites!!!)
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To: ealgeone

“Didn’t even try to point out how much in taxes that free stuff cost.”

Well, that only matters if you’re actually paying taxes.


14 posted on 11/22/2023 9:50:56 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

You want ‘free stuff’? Go to Europe.

You want to ‘earn stuff’? Come to America.

We’re the land of opportunity, not the land of gibsmedat.

Or, at least, that’s the way it’s supposed to be ...


15 posted on 11/22/2023 9:56:16 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SCConservative58

Has she ever been to Italy, even for a sightseeing trip?

I have a friend who picked up and moved to Galveston without ever going for a visit before hand. She wanted to live by the beach. Two years later, she’s ready to sell that house.

The grass isn’t always greener.


16 posted on 11/22/2023 9:57:53 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: aquila48

True as well.


17 posted on 11/22/2023 9:59:01 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ChicagoConservative27

He should definitely go. One thing he’ll realize early on is that his media-fueled misconceptions about Europe are no better than his media-fueled misconceptions about his own country. Just different.


18 posted on 11/22/2023 10:01:21 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: PROCON
Would like to hear the input from your friend. I lived in Germany from 77-81, loved it. My daily commute took me through the Urziger Wurzgarten vineyards, and I lived in Traben-Trarbach for 4 years.

Saw an old Army buddy on vacation in July, we were stationed at the same battery at Hahn AB. I was best man at his wedding. During our visit, I heard her speak English for the first time. Nearly all of our conversations were In German my last two years there.

19 posted on 11/22/2023 10:05:54 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Having lived in Germany, Austria, Hungary and France, there truly are things that are better on the other side of the pond. Mostly, those are cultural products like art, music, architecture, from their much longer history. When I was younger and lived over there I did like the more compact cities because it made things much easier to go meet with friends in the evening. Now that I’m older and have a dog, I appreciate space much more.

There is no doubt whatsoever that the standard of living in Europe is LOWER than the standard of living in the US. Yes, that is true of even wealthier countries like Germany and Austria. Also, life is nowhere near as convenient in Europe as it is in America and you are not nearly as free. Move to a new address? You’re supposed to go notify the police of your new address. As a gun collector now, you are nowhere near as free to do that. Drive right up and park? Forget it. Being able to shop anytime? Nope. Freedom of speech? Don’t even think about it.


20 posted on 11/22/2023 10:06:00 AM PST by FLT-bird
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