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It’s not just about facts: Democrats and Republicans have sharply different attitudes about removing misinformation from social media
The Conversation ^ | November 3, 2023 | Ruth Elisabeth Appel

Posted on 11/04/2023 6:23:37 AM PDT by DoodleBob

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“Rather than look inward” for why their message is failing and “political extremism is on the rise,” Democrats have opted for censorship and blacklisting, writes Matt Taibbi at his TK News site, summing up a recent Thomas Frank article that infuriated the left. Frank tells Taibbi, “The right-wing noise machine” has been “cranking for a long time. Liberals are saying, ‘Let’s make it stop’ ” — abandoning the left’s long commitment to free speech. Why? Frank warns that the “affluent, white-collar professionals who are liberal on social issues” and now dominate the party don’t want to build a coalition with the working class. They ­embrace “the idolatry of experts, rather than of the people”; they’re now “the party of experts shushing the world.”


1 posted on 11/04/2023 6:23:37 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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Right now, we really need the “misinformation” removed from crap joints like SeeBS, CNN, AP, abc, NPR, NBC, the WAPO, the New Yawk Slimes, USA Today and the rest of the far left “mainstream media”.


2 posted on 11/04/2023 6:26:14 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ('Build Back Better' is a Bidenskyyyyyyism for 'we gotta get rid of all dem white peoples'.)
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The difference is controlled speech vs the 1st.


3 posted on 11/04/2023 6:30:14 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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Look up the author. It’s some millennial girl from Stanford. She’s the type at thanksgiving dinner that comes home from college and has so much to teach the family. /s

She’s a little jacobin that simply does not recognize the right to free speech unless you say what she agrees with.

Can anyone imagine Mr Stanford seeing the Marxist redfem clowns operating in his name?


4 posted on 11/04/2023 6:34:18 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Look up the author. It’s some millennial girl from Stanford. She’s the type at thanksgiving dinner that comes home from college and has so much to teach the family. /s

She’s a little jacobin that simply does not recognize the right to free speech unless you say what she agrees with.

Can anyone imagine Mr Stanford seeing the Marxist redfem clowns operating in his name?


5 posted on 11/04/2023 6:34:31 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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Misinformation is a key global threat...

Never accept the premise of an election theft-denying fascist.

6 posted on 11/04/2023 6:35:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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“The only way to make a bad idea seem like a good idea is to silence the good idea that shows just how bad the bad idea really is” L.Star


7 posted on 11/04/2023 6:38:32 AM PDT by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star )
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I consider myself a ‘Classic Liberal’ sort of a hippie. Where are all my old friends now? Seems they were just following the flavor of the day, no real convictions.
As for ‘misinformation’, Judge Brandeis:
The best remedy to combat harmful speech is more speech not enforced silence.


8 posted on 11/04/2023 6:44:43 AM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness )
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To: FlingWingFlyer; Openurmind; DesertRhino; Qwapisking; E. Pluribus Unum; kiryandil; griswold3
Misinformation has been going on since Eden.

God gave us free will.

There is no governmental mandate - legal or otherwise - to remove misinformation.

Perhaps the only good thing to come from the pandemic, is that the MSM and medical-industrial complex destroyed any remaining credibility they had. At this point, pretty much everyone knows they are lying when they open their mouths. What’s remaining is a retinue of leftists who wield the “misinformation” label like it’s something new or a Russian bot that must be controlled.

The young author clearly is “concerned.” But at least she published a piece that shines light on the pole-shifting. The Brandy Zardrozny’s of the world would doxx the academic behind the study.

It’s kinda fun watching them gasp for air as they swirl around the drain. Go ahead….publish all the lies and misinformation you want. I’ll keep pointing out to family and friends their lies when asked and eat popcorn.

9 posted on 11/04/2023 6:45:33 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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This is typical leftist pseudo analysis. They talk around the issue and cast it in the context that what they think “misinformation” is truly “misinformation”. We’ve seen how the leftist and statist media treat information they don’t like casting it as “misinformation” while parroting as truth absolute lies and foolishness. Should we agree that gender is indeterminate and its misinformation to suggest that kids shouldn’t be transitioned? Issue after issue where differences of personal and scientific information diverge, truth seekers will always be on the losing side if the left, establishment, and statists can remove “misinformation”. We also know without a doubt that the terrorists like Hamas would not have their misinformation removed.


10 posted on 11/04/2023 6:51:29 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Free is just another word for someone else has to pay.)
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...they’re now “the party of experts shushing the world.”
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Darned if that isn’t spot on.


11 posted on 11/04/2023 6:55:20 AM PDT by Yardstick
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Conservatives are bombarded 25/7 with leftist propaganda. They don’t see any significant benefit to banning it on a few Internet platforms. On the other hand they are excluded from the MSM and their best outlet now is alternative media, and the banning has been from the leftist side. There is no downside to them to limit banning.


12 posted on 11/04/2023 7:01:33 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! Or a hou)
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And of course the 20 ton elephant in the living room with sparklers in its ears and lasers shooting out of its butt is the left’s Russia Russia Russia hoax, which was the biggest and worst example of misinformation pretty much ever.

We can’t have a serious discussion about misinformation until liberals admit that they’re guilty of perpetrating one of the worst acts of misinformation in, like, history.


13 posted on 11/04/2023 7:18:12 AM PDT by Yardstick
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And the crux of the matter is just who is deciding what *misinformation* is.

And anyone who thinks that removing what THEY consider *misinformation* is a good thing or necessary is all inn favor of censorship.


14 posted on 11/04/2023 7:21:11 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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I think there is another UK punk rocker who turned into a Conservative, I can't remember which one though.

Dee Dee Ramone was said to have been, or to have become, a Conservative.

Johnny Rotten (John Lydon) of the Sex Pistols stated publicly that he voted for Donald Trump, after saying earlier that he liked Barack Obama.

15 posted on 11/04/2023 7:21:16 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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“Democrats and Republicans diverge sharply on removing misinformation from social media what constitutes misinformation.“
16 posted on 11/04/2023 7:26:57 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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It’s not just about facts: Democrats and Republicans have sharply different attitudes about removing misinformation from social media

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Just my two cents this Saturday morning: We NOW have “fake news” and we have “fake” Republicans”. So, I don’t think saying “Democrats AND!! Republicans” is a TRUTHFUL/ACCURATE statement anymore.

The accurate way to say it would be “The Uni-Party” has sharply different attitudes about removing misinformation from social media.


17 posted on 11/04/2023 7:27:40 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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I’m tiring of this so-called ‘discussion’.

The narrative is ‘misinformation on social media’.

What about the misinformation projected by the government and projected/repeated by msm?

There’s the answer. Period.


18 posted on 11/04/2023 7:34:45 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Openurmind

Exactly.


19 posted on 11/04/2023 7:35:52 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: DoodleBob
The First Amendment:

Speech and the press are guaranteed to be completely FREE.

They are not guaranteed to be TRUE.

Or non-deceptive, or deceptive, or illusory, or good, or evil, or controversial, or agreeable, or helpful.

The educated person must fish through tons and tons of written and spoken words and make up his own mind. Or he may ignore what is being said.

The government has NO ROLE in this process.

Don't know why people have a hard time understanding this.

20 posted on 11/04/2023 7:36:48 AM PDT by caddie
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