Posted on 10/04/2023 2:42:11 AM PDT by davikkm
Back in the day, cops had to put physical “bugs” (recording devices) in criminals’ houses and cars.
Now, they just use your phone, especially if you’re on Android.
No worries, even if you’re using Apple, you probably have apps installed that can be used to listen to you and track you.
At one point, in one of the WikiLeaks dumps, it was revealed that cops were using Angry Birds to invade people’s privacy.
So, there’s no privacy, regardless of what you’re using.
With all things considered, check this out: whenever you read “no suspects were arrested,” what they are telling you is “the police decided they did not want to arrest the perpetrator.”
The Guardian:
See also LA County's no cash bail policy takes effect Sunday --- Now, when someone commits a crime, they will receive a citation and be let go right where it happened. In January 2020, Florida resident Zachary McCoy received a concerning email from Google: local authorities were asking the company for his personal information and he had just seven days to stop them from handing it over.
Police were investigating a burglary, McCoy later found out, and had issued Google what’s called a geofence warrant. The court-ordered warrant requested the company look for and hand over information on all the devices that were within the vicinity of the broken-into home at the time of the alleged crime. McCoy was on one of his regular bike rides around the neighbourhood at the time and the data Google handed over to police placed him near the scene of the burglary.
Not very many people know or care about this policy of Apple.
Here’s the part from The Guardian about iPhone:
Now, Apple has taken steps to publish its own numbers, revealing that in the first half of 2022 the company fielded a total of 13 geofence warrants and complied with none. The difference? According to Apple’s transparency report, the company doesn’t have any data to provide in response. An Apple spokesperson did not go into detail about how the company avoids collecting or storing time-stamped location data in such a way that prevents compliance with geofence warrants, but reiterated the company’s privacy principles which includes data minimization and giving users control of their data.
While Apple’s most recent record on responding to government requests for data also includes complying with 90% of US government requests for account information, experts say the newly published numbers on geofence warrants highlight a clear lesson: “If you don’t collect [the data] you can’t give it to the government or have it breached by hackers,” Andrew Crocker, the Surveillance Litigation Director at EFF, said to the Guardian.
“i leave my phone at home more often than not.”
Smart. I drive alone on backroads of TN, and there have been a few times when having my cell was important. Even critical once.
I’m watching older TV series, pre-smart phones. I really miss the simplicity of the old basic flip phones when I see them being used.
“not with an iPhone.”
The subject was “droid”.
Well today is the day they will be testing the emergency alert system.
So. My phone is off and I will put the turned off phone in a steel safe.
Think that will confuse them?
You’re still pinging off of the towers. You’re just not sharing data with aps.
Get a Faraday bag, and turn off your phone when not in use if you’re concerned.
Better yet, get a burner phone.
lol…I have a faraday birthday x I should put mine in.
I have an IPhone and all government alerts turned off so I’m excited to see if it works.
Mine is on charge right now. It goes in the safe in a few minutes. We’ll see if it works.
Yes, i agree to that. I loved and miss my flip phone, with the pull up antenae.
“Red Alert for Android Users: Google Gives Police Your Identification If Police Say You Were Near a Crime”
It’s a safe bet that Google also tells police exactly who was near a crime.
Fourth Amendment to the Constitution: “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
We need a new amendment to the Constitution making it clear that government using private parties to spy on citizens is unconstitutional.
“They also do. But if Google collects it (and you know they do), the can have a warrant issued for it as well.”
A warrant, LOL. You’re so ‘yesterday’. Today it’s a phone call (or email).
Turning off location data removes your access to the data so you can no longer see your location. Google is still collecting it if you use any of the google services such as maps, calendar, etc. Google android, as do most apps, are using the google services framework, google play services and google play all of which report and track your location.
Once, as an experiment, I left the phone untouched for a day and left a firewall blocking all google domains to see what it would do. Google Play and google services framework made 3422 attempts to contact the google mothership with data in a day. That is roughly every 30 seconds. Even with location off, it was sending data such as what apps were used, data from where they were used, updates to contacts, calendar data, maps data. Google tracks you always and at all times. That is the price of using their apps and services.
If you want to use android and remain untracked, buy a pixel and use/install grapheneOS,a hardened and secure android build with no google. Otherwise live with them always tracking you.
Bwahahahaha, who cares? My phone never leaves my pocket, screw all y’all
My phone is connected to my smartwatch is connected to my Amazon Fire TVs and DirecTV satellites.
I dont live in fear of my phone!!!!! hysterical conspiracy nutcases make me laugh.
Come and get me coppers, I got nothing to hide.
Beotches
These days you could leave your phone at home, go commit a crime, and use the fact that your phone was NOT near the scene of the crime as an alibi.
“These days you could leave your phone at home, go commit a crime, and use the fact that your phone was NOT near the scene of the crime as an alibi.”
Perhaps, but they’ll get you with the License Plate cameras if you drive to the scene, and with regular video monitoring if you take any other form of transportation, other than perhaps a taxi in NYC (and who knows regarding that, these days).
It will be an interesting experiment.
Now, if mine is turned off all day and it is in solid steel cabinet in a weak signal area; will they miss my phone?
Or will it instantly phone home to them the first time I return it to service?
I really hate cell phones. For ID purposes, I do need one.
“Perhaps, but they’ll get you with the License Plate cameras if you drive to the scene, and with regular video monitoring if you take any other form of transportation, other than perhaps a taxi in NYC (and who knows regarding that, these days).”
My comment was a joke but you’re right; with the number of surveillance cameras these days I don’t know how anybody gets away with anything.
Yeah, every time I pull a heist I leave it at home. it’s just common sense. And I read it in “Idiots Guide to Stealing For a Living”.
Post it yourself, lazy.
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