Posted on 10/04/2023 2:42:11 AM PDT by davikkm
Back in the day, cops had to put physical “bugs” (recording devices) in criminals’ houses and cars.
Now, they just use your phone, especially if you’re on Android.
No worries, even if you’re using Apple, you probably have apps installed that can be used to listen to you and track you.
At one point, in one of the WikiLeaks dumps, it was revealed that cops were using Angry Birds to invade people’s privacy.
So, there’s no privacy, regardless of what you’re using.
With all things considered, check this out: whenever you read “no suspects were arrested,” what they are telling you is “the police decided they did not want to arrest the perpetrator.”
The Guardian:
See also LA County's no cash bail policy takes effect Sunday --- Now, when someone commits a crime, they will receive a citation and be let go right where it happened. In January 2020, Florida resident Zachary McCoy received a concerning email from Google: local authorities were asking the company for his personal information and he had just seven days to stop them from handing it over.
Police were investigating a burglary, McCoy later found out, and had issued Google what’s called a geofence warrant. The court-ordered warrant requested the company look for and hand over information on all the devices that were within the vicinity of the broken-into home at the time of the alleged crime. McCoy was on one of his regular bike rides around the neighbourhood at the time and the data Google handed over to police placed him near the scene of the burglary.
Not very many people know or care about this policy of Apple.
Here’s the part from The Guardian about iPhone:
Now, Apple has taken steps to publish its own numbers, revealing that in the first half of 2022 the company fielded a total of 13 geofence warrants and complied with none. The difference? According to Apple’s transparency report, the company doesn’t have any data to provide in response. An Apple spokesperson did not go into detail about how the company avoids collecting or storing time-stamped location data in such a way that prevents compliance with geofence warrants, but reiterated the company’s privacy principles which includes data minimization and giving users control of their data.
While Apple’s most recent record on responding to government requests for data also includes complying with 90% of US government requests for account information, experts say the newly published numbers on geofence warrants highlight a clear lesson: “If you don’t collect [the data] you can’t give it to the government or have it breached by hackers,” Andrew Crocker, the Surveillance Litigation Director at EFF, said to the Guardian.
I leave my phone at home more often.
Your cell phone carrier is actually who gives your information to the police. Your phone manufacturer doesn’t do that.
Thanks for posting the full article, I noticed the site has the article “”55 Chinese sailors feared dead after nuclear submarine ‘gets caught in trap intended to snare British and US vessels in the Yellow Sea””
https://citizenwatchreport.com/55-chinese-sailors-feared-dead-after-nuclear-submarine-gets-caught-in-trap-intended-to-snare-british-and-us-vessels-in-the-yellow-sea/
Has that been posted here as a thread yet? I would like to see the discussion on that one.
Also my droid allows me to turn location data off, and i have. I also turn emergency alert signals off. We will see today if that works.
𝘈𝘭𝘴𝘰 𝘮𝘺 𝘥𝘳𝘰𝘪𝘥 𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘴 𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘯 𝘭𝘰𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘥𝘢𝘵𝘢 𝘰𝘧𝘧, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦. 𝘐 𝘢𝘭𝘴𝘰 𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘯 𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘨𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘭𝘦𝘳𝘵 𝘴𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘴 𝘰𝘧𝘧. 𝘞𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘵𝘰𝘥𝘢𝘺 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘬𝘴.
I wonder how that works. Sure you can shut location data off on the phone, but isn’t your phone still going to be pinging a cell tower anyway? I know the phone isn’t supposed to be giving location data, but I would imagine that you’re still sending signals to and from nearby towers, and I don’t know that what phones ping what towers is monitored; but I can’t help but wonder if it is regardless.
Same here.
I assumed that turning off location tracking gave you personal privacy from the corporate world, apps, etc, but not from the infrastructure of the cell tower system.
Same here, it’s home 99% of the time where it belongs. The only movement there is from the living room to the garage.
“my droid allows me to turn location data off”
That’s a placebo. A few years ago someone (maybe John Stossel) did a test. He turned off location, and even powered off the phone, and then went on with his day.
Then he had a techy person get a printout of his day. It was perfect, and even so precise that it showed when it appeared he stepped out of a car.
The explanation was that even though the main battery is disabled, there’s another battery always on. It’s the one that maintains time and date, and apparently other things like some location data.
They also do. But if Google collects it (and you know they do), the can have a warrant issued for it as well.
That’s what this article is about.
Re: 9 - not with an iPhone.
You’re being tracked no matter what you do…that how Google makes $$$$!!
I’m sure Apple does it as well….even when your phone is turned off it is still searchable…FWIW
My android settings don’t allow the federal alert to be turned off.
Especially when you go out Robbin' and Rapin',
Which takes me back to an earlier post, i said i leave my phone at home more often than not.
At 68 i have learnt that that activity is best left to the youngsters!!;-)
Mine is a pixel 7, i’ll find out today if i have actually turned that off.
No one is stopping you
If I wanted to post a thread, I would.
Same here.
And will put phones in microwave today - a substitute faraday cage - after lunch.
Lord only knows what kind of fence they are trying to construct with the ‘emergency’ signal they are putting out today.
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