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OPINION: Majority of Americans Think Trump Committed Crimes - That's a Problem
Red State ^ | 08/28/2023 | Matt Dempsey

Posted on 08/28/2023 10:17:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

A new poll released on Saturday shows that 62 percent of Americans think former President Trump "committed a crime." Trump made history this past Thursday by becoming the first former President of the United States to have his mugshot taken, not to mention also being the subject of four separate indictments with a total of 91 separate charges. The poll is what many people consider a damning case against Trump. 

More than three in five Americans believe that Donald Trump has committed a crime (net +32; 62 percent committed a crime – 30 percent did not commit a crime), including independents by 49 points (67 percent committed a crime – 18 percent did not), nine in ten Democrats (net +87; 92 percent committed a crime – 5 percent did not), and nearly three in ten Republicans (net -33; 28 percent committed a crime – 18 percent did not). While nearly two in three white Americans believe Trump has committed a crime (57 percent), overwhelming shares of Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders (83 percent), Black Americans (81 percent), and Hispanic Americans (72 percent) believe he has. Other demographic subgroups most likely to believe Trump has committed a crime include college-educated women (76 percent), Americans under the age of 35 (71 percent), and independent women (69 percent).  


No matter how you slice it, that isn't something to be proud of, regardless of why and how they were brought forward. This Presidential election cycle is being dominated by Trump and his legal woes. Everybody is talking about it, and it's burning up precious time and energy that could be spent on ripping apart President Biden's administration and failures. The first debate of the cycle was dominated by a person who wasn't even there, with Trump ditching the debate to do an interview with former FOX News host Tucker Carlson on X (formerly known as Twitter). However, polling suggests that not showing up to the debate might have actually hurt Trump, rather than help. 

Ep. 19 Debate Night with Donald J Trump pic.twitter.com/ayPfII48CO— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) August 24, 2023

Trump is seemingly always at center stage — at least figuratively — during this election season, and people are losing focus on the future and all the possibilities it brings. With 91 separate criminal charges, he is looking at over 650 years in prison if convicted on all charges, even though we would all agree that some of them are blatantly unconstitutional. Now, I will readily admit that he won't even get close to that, let alone be convicted on all counts. But therein lies the problem. Like it or not, the chances of Trump getting convicted on at least one or more charges are very high. In my experience in law enforcement and statistically speaking, the more charges one is hit with, the higher the chance that that person will get convicted. 

The conviction rate is 82% at one charge; for defendants tried for five counts or more, the conviction rate is 91%, almost 10 percentage points higher.

Again, in my professional experience, like it or not, Trump will most likely be convicted on at least one count on any of the indictments, and he will most likely go to, or at least be sentenced to prison. Now, some will say that my sharing this observation puts me on the side of the "deep state," or something along those lines, but I'm not. I think it is clear by now that my views do not correlate with supporting a big government that is corrupted by power and money. I do believe that there are some serious concerns and even evidence of President Biden using the DOJ or "legitimate efforts of our Constitution [to ensure Trump] doesn't become the next President again," as President Biden notoriously said.

Let's explore the possible/probable event that Trump gets convicted on one or more charges for any of his indictments before the general election next November. Politically, what would happen in the election cycle? First off, because Trump has so many devoted followers, he stands poised to nab the GOP nomination unless the GOP successfully sabotages that. At that point, with Trump as the nominee, he'd also be a convicted felon looking at a prison sentence. And the Republican Party will have lost credibility in its claim to be the "law and order" party by supporting a candidate who will be a convicted felon at that point. 

We'd be going after the presumed Democratic nominee of President Biden with a tainted candidate who could well be in prison either just before taking office if he wins or shortly thereafter. If you think America is a laughing stock to the world now, just wait until that happens. Our international allies and partners would immediately start looking elsewhere for friends, while adversaries like Russia and China would take full advantage of the power vacuum left by an incredibly unstable America. What is more likely, however, is that Trump would lose the general election, and we'd be stuck with Biden and his ilk for the next four years. 

Fair or no, Trump is political kryptonite now. In addition to hurting the reputation of the Republican Party, he's lashing out at anyone who offers so much as the lightest of criticism. He cannot stand being criticized or even disagreed with. His most effective Press Secretary while he was in office, Kayleigh McEnany, committed the egregious crime of allegedly using the wrong polling numbers when reporting on Trump's lead over Governor Ron DeSantis. So what did Trump do? He cut her out like a mold patch on his Double Quarter Pounder with cheese.

“Kayleigh ‘Milktoast’ McEnany just gave out the wrong poll numbers on FoxNews. I am 34 points up on DeSanctimonious, not 25 up,”   

One of the candidates who could beat Biden in November is Governor Ron DeSantis. He is the most successful Republican Governor in the country. DeSantis has done more to further the conservative agenda in his state of Florida than any Republican governor today. He signed "constitutional carry" legislation, parent's rights bills, fought the radical trans agenda, and more. Trump did help DeSantis get elected to his first term, and that was a close one. But DeSantis's victory this past year was a figurative beat down of his politically confused opponent, Charlie Crist, by over 19 points. 

If Trump doesn't win the nomination for any reason, I suspect he will take his campaign forward, but as an independent. If he goes that route, he'll pull a spoiler campaign for the record books, making what Ross Perot did to Former President George H. W. Bush in the 1992 election pale in comparison. Perot managed to gather just over a whopping 19,000,000 votes. Imagine what Trump could do as a third-party candidate or independent. He wouldn't win, but he'd essentially give the race to any Democrat candidate, which, in turn, would likely guarantee a Democrat victory across the board, ceding both chambers of Congress to the Dems as faith in the GOP plummets. 

If he were to back out now, Trump could put his money on any candidate he thinks could crush Biden, of which there are a few who could easily trounce Biden. He could also campaign for Republicans in a way that isn't toxic or childish and helps us win big. If he uses his power and clout to further the conservative brand, Republicans could get that boost they really need



TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: absurdpoll; crimes; fakenews; fakepolls; indictment; liberalredstate; mattdempsey; mediaite; navigator; redstatelies; tds; trump; voters
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1 posted on 08/28/2023 10:17:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Sure they do. To hell with Red State.


2 posted on 08/28/2023 10:19:37 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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To: wildcard_redneck

RE: To hell with Red State.

You’re shooting the messenger. They’re citing polls. Attack the pollsters, not Red State.


3 posted on 08/28/2023 10:21:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

voter fraud is the problem


4 posted on 08/28/2023 10:22:45 PM PDT by changeitback440
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To: wildcard_redneck
Never heard of “Navigator Research” until now. Looks like they were founded in 2018 out of pure Democratic TDS; they’re a collaboration between openly Democratic polling firms GBA Strategies and the Global Strategy Group with funding from the far-left 1630 Group (which is tied to ACORN and other commie front groups).

You know Red State has gone to hell when they start looking at polls like this, second-hand from their Mediaite link.
5 posted on 08/28/2023 10:25:25 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump leafs Biden by 2 in an Emerson Poll.


6 posted on 08/28/2023 10:25:31 PM PDT by cowboyusa (UA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: SeekAndFind

They’re citing polls conducted by the Democratic Party-aligned far left groups.


7 posted on 08/28/2023 10:26:09 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SeekAndFind

From Mediate.


8 posted on 08/28/2023 10:26:55 PM PDT by FreeperCell
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To: SeekAndFind
The polling company comes out and states it distributes progressive messaging:

https://navigatorresearch.org/about/

9 posted on 08/28/2023 10:31:55 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is woefully unfortunate that President Trump ever made a crack about being able to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and still be supported politically. Even though it was probably just a joke, it seems to follow him around like dog hair on the couch. Any thoughts about the likelihood of RFK Jr. affecting the Democrat’s ticket? I have not read his book yet, but from what I have heard about it, and what I have seen and heard about all the Covid funny business, I am curious about what could happen regarding his candidacy.


10 posted on 08/28/2023 10:37:50 PM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority!)
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To: SeekAndFind

IF true.....which I find hard to believe....it would show the continuously repeated media Big Lie smears any innocent person.

Trump is NOT a RICO style gangster endangering anyone or using security documents at Mar-a-Lago to give to a foreign power or getting some sort of profit from his supposed financial crimes.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
—Joseph Goebbels


11 posted on 08/28/2023 10:43:21 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: frank ballenger

Remember,when dems lie their voters “”want “ to believe the lie.....Even when shown the facts, dem voters still “”want “” to believe the lie....


12 posted on 08/28/2023 10:51:24 PM PDT by Hambone 1934 (Dems love playing Nazis.....The republicans love helping them)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Over a quarter BILLION views of the interview, instead of the barely watched
“republican” clown show that took place at the same time should clear up any
questions about whether or not we WILL be sending Our Mr. MAGA!
(My A$$ Got Arrested!) ,
back to the Oval to do the will of We The People. (Yet Again.)


13 posted on 08/28/2023 10:51:52 PM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see. #MAGA-AaA)
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To: gleeaikin

>>”It is woefully unfortunate that President Trump ever made a crack about being able to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and still be supported politically. Even though it was probably just a joke, it seems to follow him around like dog hair on the couch.”

No probably about it. It was obviously a joke. To the extent that it still follows him around, that’s a function of how detached from reality the left’s narratives are.

They don’t need an excuse to lie. They’ll fabricate things out of thin air if they have to. Trump could have played the game of trying not to “offend” the MSM, but it wouldn’t have mattered, so he decided to be Trump instead.
When he did, he showed millions of Americans that he was more interested in communicating directly to them rather than through the MSM gatekeepers.


14 posted on 08/28/2023 10:52:40 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: SeekAndFind

Red State is Never Trump. They just want the Donald to drop out so one of their guys can get in. And they would probably be relieved if the nominee is a neocon, and not DeSantis or Vivek.


15 posted on 08/28/2023 10:56:10 PM PDT by Trump_Triumphant ("Our hearts are restless, Oh Lord, until they rest in thee"- St. Augustine)
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To: frank ballenger
Well worth repeating.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

—Joseph Goebbels


16 posted on 08/28/2023 11:06:22 PM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

BU££$}{IT !!!


17 posted on 08/28/2023 11:08:29 PM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress!!!)
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Erick Erickson doesn’t work at Red State anymore, but he ruined them by being known for being NeverTrump in 2016. I haven’t visited their site since then.


18 posted on 08/28/2023 11:08:46 PM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: EasySt

✅👍👍👍👍✅


19 posted on 08/28/2023 11:10:46 PM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Well, that is because not enough news outlets are reporting on the fact that each of these indictments have followed either within a day or two of damning reports alleging of corruption by Biden & his family & Joe Biden's activities that show Joe was an integral part of Hunter's businesses, and has repeatedly lied about his connections to Hunter's businesses.

Without Joe's political offices, Vice President & now President, Hunter would have no business. Because of the influence Joe Biden had & now has with these political offices. A clear case of influence peddling, or as they say pay to play corruption schemes.

So, where is your report of this Red State? Every news outlet should be hammered for not reporting this.

20 posted on 08/28/2023 11:29:48 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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