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Two Beautiful 20th Century Babes Who Liberated Love: Marilyn Monroe-Antecedent Ulla Jacobsson And Valley Of The Dolls Novelist Jacqueline Susann
https://freedom-demokrasi-and-civilised-humanity.com/ ^ | 20th August, 2023, Wynnewood time | Ozguy1945

Posted on 08/20/2023 8:21:04 PM PDT by Ozguy1945

In 1951, Swedish actress Ulla Jacobsson preceded Marilyn Monroe by three years in her free celebration of her female form on camera. In classical Latin her first name "Ulla" meant "any female". She died in Vienna on August 20, 1982.

Jacqueline Susann, author "Valley Of The Dolls" and "The Love Machine" about fictional television producer Robin Stone, was born on August 20, 1918 in Wynnewood, Pennsylvania.

"Love shouldn't make a beggar of one. I wouldn't want love if I had to beg for it, to barter or qualify it. And I should despise it if anyone ever begged for my love. Love is something that must be given -- it can't be bought with words or pity, or even reason."

“I’ve got a library copy of Gone with the Wind, a quart of milk and all these cookies. Wow! What an orgy!”

God Bless Beautiful Women who help to set us free ......

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1 posted on 08/20/2023 8:21:04 PM PDT by Ozguy1945
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To: Ozguy1945
A sad, repeatedly raped small child who was told her only value as a person was in getting men off is not "liberating love". It is enslaving it.

Sex is not love.

Love is not sex.

You don't realize that then you will constantly be missing something in your life and be miserable.

2 posted on 08/20/2023 8:33:22 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: Ozguy1945
I ran across this 1973 British interview of Jacqueline Susann, given while she was battling cancer (she died a year later). I was struck by how nasty that old cat Elaine Grand was and how beautifully Jacqueline dismantled her bit by bit, with a smile.

https://youtu.be/FJkqQiQw6G8

3 posted on 08/20/2023 8:37:40 PM PDT by avenir ("For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form"!)
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To: avenir

https://youtu.be/FJkqQiQw6G8


4 posted on 08/20/2023 8:38:07 PM PDT by avenir ("For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form"!)
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To: Ozguy1945

These women did not help us. Marilyn was reportedly seriously abused as a child and aborted several kids. Was an adulteress and did porn. She is no one to emulate.


5 posted on 08/20/2023 8:42:27 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Persevero

Marilyn Monroe had a rather tragic life really. To a degree she was doomed to sorrow, and some sort of bad end.

She did have considerable talent, other than looking good. She was a fine comic actress.


6 posted on 08/20/2023 8:48:12 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: avenir

She did manage to stick in that shiv, over and over! Clever woman.


7 posted on 08/20/2023 8:49:26 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Persevero

Agree


8 posted on 08/20/2023 9:04:07 PM PDT by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: Ozguy1945

Amazing to see this garbage exalted on a conservative site. I cannot imagine, for instance, the writings of CS Lewis, or Saint Thomas Aquinas, being celebrated on a progressive liberal website.


9 posted on 08/20/2023 9:04:23 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: Ozguy1945

I think we could have done without both of them, at least as public figures.


10 posted on 08/20/2023 9:09:17 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: avenir

Definitely going to watch this. I love food literature & I love Jacqueline Susann. She could tell a story with the best of them.


11 posted on 08/20/2023 9:10:00 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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To: leaning conservative

Good literature ( & good food literature!)


12 posted on 08/20/2023 9:10:45 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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To: nwrep

Agreed


13 posted on 08/20/2023 9:14:15 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: Ozguy1945

Have you seen Susann???She looked like a truck driver in drag....


14 posted on 08/20/2023 9:21:43 PM PDT by Hambone 1934 (Dems love playing Nazis.....The republicans love helping them)
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To: Persevero

She did not do porn. Was a very smart and talented woman, had a hard life growing up.


15 posted on 08/20/2023 9:24:40 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: nwrep

Mostly because liberals (of the modern sort) are stupid. Conservatives should read broadly. My hero is Saint Teresa of Avila, who was a total fan of medieval fantasy, or lets say Chivalric Romance (Orlando, Amadis, Esplandian, etc., that whole list in “Don Quixote”).

Let’s leave Marilyn out of this, she was a walking tragedy more than anything else.

Jacqueline Susanne was a clever writer. Her immoral works aren’t, depending on how you look at it I guess. In “Valley of the Dolls” she tells a tragic tale, or, rather, a lot of them, of affairs, corruption of innocents, drug addiction, cruel ambition, etc., that all end badly. It’s not really different (other than volume) from the 18th century “Dangerous Liasons”, “Lady of the Camellias” by Dumas, “Madame Bovary”, “Anna Karenina” or “Nana” by Zola. Susanne just packs in a few more characters and tragedies.

Yes, I do read a lot of things.


16 posted on 08/20/2023 9:27:30 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Ozguy1945

The world calls sex love. It is the pretty much the opposite of Biblical love.


17 posted on 08/20/2023 9:34:42 PM PDT by vpintheak (There is no Trans. There is only mentally ill)
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To: Ozguy1945

Liberated love? From morality and sanctity.


18 posted on 08/20/2023 9:41:41 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: markman46

I did see Jacqueline Suzanne walking near Central Park in the early 70s She looked like a caricature: fancy hat, large white fur, thin skirt—led by her poodle down the sidewalk.

It was almost cartoonish. Truman Capote may been a bit strong with his description but he was not far off.


19 posted on 08/20/2023 9:42:02 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: vpintheak

There is sex, there is love, there are the two together, and all of these conditions can cause problems.

Add, the cases where A comes to love B but B doesn’t love A (or much less so), but B gets to have sex with A.

And then there are the cases where both love and sex have a time limit.

Life gets messy. And tragic. And often very amusing.


20 posted on 08/20/2023 9:44:23 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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