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New York Times Struggles With Florida's E-Verify Law
Border Hawk Blog ^ | August 10th, 2023 | Allan Wall

Posted on 08/11/2023 8:44:04 AM PDT by River Hawk

On July 1, a new law took effect in Florida: SB 1718/Chapter No. 2023-40.

This law clamps down on illegal immigration by, among other things, requiring all businesses employing 25 or more workers to use E-Verify to confirm that an employee is legal to work.

The New York Times sent Miriam Jordan to the Sunshine State to see what’s going on. Her article, published August 4, is entitled, "New Florida Immigration Rules Start to Strain Some Businesses."

It says “some immigrant communities” are afraid. That is, the illegals themselves and those who depend on them.

Such an article is incomplete without discussing the terrifying “labor shortage." By the sixth paragraph she has invoked that fearsome specter.

"Tim Conlan, president of Reliant, a roofing company in Jacksonville, said a subcontractor had recently turned down a project after his workers refused to travel to Florida, preferring to stay in Georgia and the Carolinas. He also said that hourly rates for jobs had increased about 10 percent since the bill was signed into law in May."

Did you catch that? Conlan says “hourly rates for jobs had increased about 10 percent since the bill was signed into law in May."

Wages going up for American workers! We can’t have that now, can we?

To her credit, Ms. Jordan quotes a legislator who voted for the law: “The state of Florida needs to do what it can to stand up to Joe Biden’s open border policy and protect Floridians from the massive cost of illegal immigration. The purpose of the law is to get illegal immigrants to stop coming to Florida and to get those who are here to leave.”

Does your state require employers to use E-Verify? If not, ask your legislators about it.

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TOPICS: Government; Local News; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: boohoo; fl; florida; illegalaliens; illegals; immigration; labor
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1 posted on 08/11/2023 8:44:04 AM PDT by River Hawk
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To: River Hawk

States that require all or most employers to use E-Verify: Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Utah.

Public employers and/or contractors with the state: Florida, Indiana, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and Texas.

Public employers only: Idaho and Virginia.

States with local/municipality E-Verify requirements: Colorado (Denver), Florida (Hernando County, Bonita Springs), Michigan (Ingham County, Macomb County, Oakland County), Missouri (O’Fallon), Nebraska (Fremont), and Washington (Hoquiam, Pierce County, Woodland).

State contractors only: Colorado, Louisiana, and Minnesota.


2 posted on 08/11/2023 8:53:04 AM PDT by Farmerbob
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To: River Hawk

A liberal newspaper has a problem with laws. Stop the presses.


3 posted on 08/11/2023 8:57:16 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: River Hawk

The biggest opposition to E-Verify down here in Florida comes from growers.


4 posted on 08/11/2023 8:59:47 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
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To: River Hawk

Florida has a massive population of illegal immigrants. They are a large part of the local criminal justice system, requiring expensive interpreters and attorneys to represent them and often getting lax sentences and minor fines because they would overwhelm the system if fully prosecuted. The illegals strain hospital emergency rooms and charity budgets. Their children also burden the public school systems. Being accident prone and uninsured, they run up Florida’s car insurance rates.


5 posted on 08/11/2023 9:03:36 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

H1-B visa foreign workers do not burden welfare system. They all have productive jobs, pay all taxes including social security and Medicare taxes. If they lose the job, they are required to go back to their country, and thus will not collect social security and Medicare benefits.


6 posted on 08/11/2023 9:19:24 AM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like DeSantis build wealth. Trump sacrificed his wealth to serve people.)
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To: Rockingham

“They are a large part of the local criminal justice system.”

One dollar is one dollar too many, but context is helpful: illegals make up 4.8% of prisoners in the Florida. My guess is that would roughly correspond to the overall burden to the system.


7 posted on 08/11/2023 9:21:57 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
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To: entropy12

Florida’s E-verify law does not impinge on legal residents, only on illegals.


8 posted on 08/11/2023 9:30:52 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

Why this type of law is not nationwide? It is more effective than a border wall to prevent illegals.


9 posted on 08/11/2023 9:37:13 AM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like DeSantis build wealth. Trump sacrificed his wealth to serve people.)
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To: Miami Rebel
No, you are mistaken. State prison time requires a serious offense. Many cases involving illegals who are defendants are not prosecuted or are minimally prosecuted because they would not result in a substantial fee or fine collection and would result in a cost for local taxpayers who must cover the cost of jail time, as opposed to prison, which the state government pays for.

No one quite knows the extent of this inadequate prosecution problem, so Florida's new E-Verify law requires that data be collected and reported on this issue.

Another problem with your suggestion is that illegals who have committed a major offense know enough to skip out, often to their home country as a near-absolute sanctuary. They do not make it to a courthouse or a state prison so they never get into the statistical database of criminal illegals.

10 posted on 08/11/2023 9:45:10 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: entropy12

The US Chamber of Commerce, major employers of illegals, and Democrats all oppose mandatory national use of E-Verify.


11 posted on 08/11/2023 9:47:39 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: entropy12

H1-B visa holders are not considered “illegal immigrants”. I doubt they were who the poster was referring to in the above comment.

We have illegal alien homeowners in our own Florida neighborhood who have learned how to “lawyer up” and literally get away with trespass and criminal mischief on a recurring basis.

Yet despite filing police reports and video cam evidence, local law enforcement refuses to respond to complaints or to arrest the perps for blatantly violating Florida criminal statutes with impunity.

If the perps come from a foreign country, and they damage your property, just like what’s happening to property owners in Texas, you are, in a lot of Florida counties, sorry out of luck.

And we know the outrageously high premiums we pay for auto insurance go to cover damages caused by the burgeoning illegal alien driving population who do not carry insurance yet are the most accident-prone and have the least developed driving skills.

Uninsured Motorist coverage ought to be illegal. Instead, the insurance lobby in Florida is purely Satanic in how it has its hands around the throat of the Florida State Legislature.

It is about time legitimate residents have been given a law on the books that might return life in Florida to some semblance of sanity.


12 posted on 08/11/2023 10:01:02 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: River Hawk; JulieRNR21; Travis McGee; AAABEST; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; ...
More good news for a beautiful Florida Friday afternoon.

Law and order. There it is again. But it's racist, or xenophobic, or... something!

I wonder how bad the cumulative damage of decades of unchecked illegal invasion will be to our nation. It's already a pretty safe bet to say that our nation will never again be what it once was.

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13 posted on 08/11/2023 10:13:29 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: entropy12

H1B workers get paid less, which means reduced taxation. If the H1B has children, we’re paying to education them.

The workers that were screwed over when they were replaced by H1B... I’m paying assistance to those former productive workers, all on reduced H1B wages & taxation.


14 posted on 08/11/2023 2:30:24 PM PDT by bobcat62
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To: River Hawk

wasn’t this struck down, not allowed in other states some years back like a decade or so ago?


15 posted on 08/11/2023 2:45:42 PM PDT by b4me
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To: River Hawk

if desantis did his job and didn’t allow them entry in to FL then they wouldn’t need to deal with them after there, or put more burden on citizens or businesses to have to be harmed by invaders.

why doesn’t desantis use his authority as Gov to secure the borders the Fed isn’t? It’s his job and this is his second term correct?

so he didn’t do it first term, hasn’t done it second so far and yet prances around thinking he would make a good President?


16 posted on 08/11/2023 2:49:21 PM PDT by b4me
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To: entropy12
H1-B visa foreign workers do not burden welfare system. They all have productive jobs, pay all taxes including social security and Medicare taxes. If they lose the job, they are required to go back to their country, and thus will not collect social security and Medicare benefits.

You do realize that just about everything you wrote is incorrect right?

17 posted on 08/11/2023 2:51:52 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Point out the errors so I can know the facts.


18 posted on 08/11/2023 5:14:05 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like DeSantis build wealth. Trump sacrificed his wealth to serve people.)
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To: bobcat62

H1-B visa received education in foreign country so we did not have to pay anything for it. We got a educated worker for free. If they get paid less, the American outfit becomes more competitive and stays in USA instead of sending work abroad through internet.


19 posted on 08/11/2023 5:16:19 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like DeSantis build wealth. Trump sacrificed his wealth to serve people.)
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To: entropy12

We have plenty of unemployed Tech workers with the current Tech layoffs. Time to wind down the guest worker programs & ship ‘em to Modi. We have ample US citizens that can take their place.


20 posted on 08/11/2023 6:25:37 PM PDT by bobcat62
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