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DOWNGRADES and WARNINGS: Moody’s Outlook on 27 American Banks
The Organic Prepper ^ | August 10, 2023 | Daisy Luther

Posted on 08/11/2023 6:44:37 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: CFW

(I expect to see more banks go under this fall)

I’ve recently been saying that the BidenDepression 2023 could start as early as September, 2023-Spring, 2024

Which the latter would make it BidenDepression 2024.

It’s just a guess, admittedly

There’s no way that this disaster can continue


21 posted on 08/11/2023 8:28:56 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Alberta's Child

My daughter’s rate is 2.9%. She wants to move, but rates around here are 7%. That would crush their payments.

I want to sell my home, but at the prices there is virtually nowhere to go.

The economy will freeze because no one can “move.”


22 posted on 08/11/2023 8:34:24 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: CodeToad

The banks didn’t borrow those funds for 30-year terms to make 30-year loans, though. See the details of the failure of Silicon Valley Bank for an example of why these banks are in trouble.


23 posted on 08/11/2023 8:50:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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To: NorthMountain
The banks aren't run by idiots.

I never said they were. I said the industry has the deck stacked against it. That’s why even banks run by smart people fail.

24 posted on 08/11/2023 8:52:59 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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To: Alberta's Child

“The banks didn’t borrow those funds for 30-year terms to make 30-year loans, though.”

Yes, they did.


25 posted on 08/11/2023 8:55:16 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: Alberta's Child
I said the industry has the deck stacked against it.

I provided evidence that the deck isn't stacked against it. You did not tell the whole story.

26 posted on 08/11/2023 8:56:04 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Noumenon

Bail. Right. And go where? Stuff even more in your mattress? Buy more precious metals which are only semi-liquid?


27 posted on 08/11/2023 8:57:02 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Vermont Lt

You are always going to have people “moving” permanently … either selling a home to downsize, or selling upon the death of the owner. You won’t see too many amateur investors flipping houses for a while, though.


28 posted on 08/11/2023 8:58:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Again, and do what? (See post #18.)


29 posted on 08/11/2023 8:59:14 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

FREepmail.


30 posted on 08/11/2023 9:09:49 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: NorthMountain
… and paying points and fees when he does so, along with a new interest rate which is tied to his credit score, and if his property has declined in value the banks won't issue a refinance loan anyway.

Points and fees are the only costs the borrower needs to consider here, and over the life of a loan with a 30-year amortization they are very low.

Nobody is going to refinance a 30-year fixed-rate mortgage unless the interest rate is now LOWER than the original one. And the odds of the property appraising at a lower value in an environment of falling interest rates are almost zero in most areas of the U.S.

31 posted on 08/11/2023 9:16:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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To: Alberta's Child
the odds of the property appraising at a lower value in an environment of falling interest rates are almost zero in most areas of the U.S.

That statement is inconsistent with observed reality.

32 posted on 08/11/2023 9:19:58 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

BFLR


33 posted on 08/11/2023 9:28:40 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: NorthMountain
I don't know what "observed reality" you are talking about.

If I can afford to pay $2,000/month on my mortgage, I can afford to buy a home with a $300,000 mortgage at 7% or a $475,000 mortgage at 3%.

What did you think was driving the escalation in home prices after the COVID fiasco?

34 posted on 08/11/2023 10:58:17 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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To: Alberta's Child
I don't know what "observed reality" you are talking about.

I'm not surprised. Many factors drive the price of residential real-estate. Actual home-owners are aware of this.

35 posted on 08/11/2023 11:02:01 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: SaveFerris

“I’ve recently been saying that the BidenDepression 2023 could start as early as September, 2023-Spring, 2024”


I’m guessing along the same time-line. And I’m arranging things in my household/finances accordingly. If I’m wrong, no harm caused. If I’m right then I’ll be glad I made those plans.


36 posted on 08/11/2023 11:02:24 AM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: CFW

Lord willing, I’ll be able to pay off most of what I need this morning month but I still have a car needing parts that are difficult to get and another needs minor work.

The first one would still have to go to the body shop - most of that paid by other party’s insurance once I can obtain the parts.

Then we’ll see how the rest of the year goes.


37 posted on 08/11/2023 11:07:47 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Alberta's Child

what about the safety of credit unions we have a small one here. Do they work with banks or are they their own animals.


38 posted on 08/11/2023 11:31:08 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Portfolio runoff and tighter underwriting will cure most of this. Overleveraging has always been both a temptation and a problem for banks.


39 posted on 08/12/2023 3:53:46 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: NorthMountain

I’ve been involved in residential and commercial real estate investment for almost 25 years. I know a thing or two about how this works.


40 posted on 08/12/2023 1:57:48 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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