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1 posted on 08/06/2023 7:01:59 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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So how do they explain why Japan didn’t surrender after the first A-bomb?

Don’t believe these quotes anyway.


139 posted on 08/06/2023 10:00:46 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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You've got a thing for this kind of revisionist propaganda don't you?

‘It wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing’ --- Why dropping the A-Bombs was wrong

8/10/2013, 7:09:00 AM · by SeekAndFind · 317 replies
Washington Examiner ^ | 08/10/2013 | Timothy Carney

140 posted on 08/06/2023 10:05:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Woke is a cancer of the mind and humanity)
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Lefty crapola. As it was, Japan knew the US was developing an atomic bomb because of a sophisticated spy effort and their own A-bomb work.

Fully aware of the atomic bomb's destructiveness, Japan also knew that our bomb production capacity was limited and planned on resistance based on deep tunnels and heavily armed forces in reserve. Japan aimed to impose such massive casualties on US invasion forces that a peace would be agreed to on Japanese terms.

The core Japanese terms were the maintenance of the Emperor and the imperial system with no reckoning as to his participation in the war and immense financial benefit from war crimes throughout Asia. Yet, even with that agreed to and Hirohito ready to announce Japan's surrender, the Japanese military attempted a coup to depose him and continue fighting.

As quoted, many US military and civilian leaders correctly saw Japan as defeated but had little understanding of the Japanese warrior code and their military's willingness to continue fighting to the death of themselves and of Japan itself. If not for the use of atomic bombs, the Japanese would have had to be subdued through an extraordinarily destructive invasion.

As it was, the use of atomic bombs on Japan provided a psychological means by which the Japanese could reconcile themselves to defeat. This was anticipated and planned on by Hirohito and his circle.

As US intelligence decrypts revealed, after surrender, Japan began a calculated effort to generate international sympathy by claiming that the A-bomb was a uniquely evil weapon and that Japan was a victim. In effect, critics of the US bombing of Japan are carrying out old Japanese and Soviet propaganda themes against the US.

145 posted on 08/06/2023 10:47:26 PM PDT by Rockingham
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Truman was a democrat partisan hack IMO in domestic affairs, but I’ll never hold the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki against him.

I had three great uncles who fought those homicidal, suicidal, nihilistic nutjobs all over the Pacific, plus my paternal grandfather was on his way there after the defeat of Germany. Everyone of them, plus their family members were glad the war was over.

The bombing worked, it ended the war, which led to peace and eventually led to our current relationship with Japan.


148 posted on 08/07/2023 1:06:58 AM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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See the invasion of Okinawa for a preview of what an invasion of Japan would have looked like. It is not a pretty picture.

the United States had sustained over 49,000 casualties including more than 12,500 men killed or missing. Okinawans caught in the fighting suffered greatly, with an estimate as high as 150,000 civilians killed. Of the Japanese defending the island, an estimated 110,000 died.

150 posted on 08/07/2023 1:18:48 AM PDT by jpsb
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Stark Realities with Brian McGlinchey is a Substack newsletter that undermines official narratives, demolishes conventional wisdom and exposes fundamental myths across the political spectrum—with original reporting, deeply unorthodox policy arguments and excavations of key events buried by major media.

Keywords here are 'undermines' and 'deeply unorthodox policy arguments and excavations.'

They are literally admitting they thrive on creating contrary argument and throwing up 'excavations' to support their 'arguments.' My only guess is that they are willingly creating the controversies in order to increase their media footprint and thus, their bottom line.

151 posted on 08/07/2023 1:20:10 AM PDT by Gaffer ( )
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Bullcrap they were useless. Dont care, I’ve read enough on the subject and talked to enough people who were there. It wasn’t useless. It was dam necessary.


152 posted on 08/07/2023 1:30:26 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Except that it took TWO bombs to convince Japan to surrender and even that barely did the job. The vote to surrender passed by only ONE vote.

If that’s what it took to get them to surrender, then nothing short of annihilation through a long bloody war would have worked.


157 posted on 08/07/2023 2:30:59 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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Make no mistake: This was a deliberate targeting of civilian populations. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen because they were pristine, and could thus fully showcase the bombs’ power. Hiroshima was home to a small military headquarters, but the fact that both cities had gone untouched by a strategic bombing campaign that began 14 months earlier certifies their military and industrial insignificance.

I heard they were chosen because of they were strategic militarily.

158 posted on 08/07/2023 2:35:55 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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The “bomb” was Made in America, tested in Japan.


159 posted on 08/07/2023 2:39:18 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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Of course to prove their virtue every one of these military experts volunteered to be in the first wave on Japanese D Day right?
This is a pile of lies that were written by liars that hate America and certainly hate America’s middle and lower classes who would have had to storm the Japanese beaches and be killed to prove what wonderful people America’s elite were/are.


161 posted on 08/07/2023 3:27:28 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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Don't know if these quotes are true, but more died in the fire bombing of Tokyo than with those blasts.

My Dad was in the Phillipines and his 2 cousins were on ships headed for the invasion, after fighting for over a year.

166 posted on 08/07/2023 4:00:03 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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I scanned the entire article and didn’t read a single reference to Okinawa, or even Iwo Jima. This is all fake and lies.


167 posted on 08/07/2023 4:11:43 AM PDT by KobraKai
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Bull$***. THEY attacked us FIRST.

I don’t believe these quotes.

Thousands of American boys fought and lost their lives or were wounded horribly and had their lives totally disrupted for ever by these maniacs and their buddies in Germany snd later Stalin and his successors.

They fought like demons to the death on foreign islands
AND WOULD HAVE FOUGHT HARDER IN JAPAN.

AFTER WHAT THESE SAVAGES DID IN MANCHURIA AND KOREA AND CHINA AND THE PHILLIPINES THEY HAVE NO VALID ARGUMENTS

THERE WERE A LOT OF INCINERATED GERMANS IN DRESDEN AND OTHER CITIES.

THEY HAVE STILL REFUSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE OR APOLOGIZE FOR THEIR ATROCITIES

IF THE BOMBS SAVED AMERICAN LIVES I DON’T CARE IF IMPRESSING THAT OTHER MANIC STALIN WAS AN OBJECTIVE ALSO., I DON’T GIVE A DAMN.

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF REVISIONIST, ANTI-AMERICAN, ANTI-WESTERN HISTORIANS PUTTING OUT THIS BULLS*** WOKE GARBAGE.


168 posted on 08/07/2023 4:24:34 AM PDT by ZULU (HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATIST TRAITORS)
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Given the choice of one quick flash of light or months of starvation, brutal torture, disease, over-work in a Japanese prison camp, I’d choose the former ANY day. It was WAY more humane.


169 posted on 08/07/2023 4:25:24 AM PDT by joethedrummer (We can't vote our way out of this, folks..)
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The history of this leftist loon


170 posted on 08/07/2023 4:26:14 AM PDT by ZULU (HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATIST TRAITORS)
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I see. The guy who orchestrated the fire bombing of Tokyo that killed more than the atomic bombing was a secret anti-American sensative socialist hunny-bunny.

Well that settles it. Time to chuck the Constitution.


171 posted on 08/07/2023 4:34:03 AM PDT by Eastern Shore Virginian (I am 100% certain.........but I may be wrong.)
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Revisionist history.


172 posted on 08/07/2023 4:39:19 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot (Recovering Kalifornian... Loving Alabama!)
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The attack on Pearl Harbor was needless.


173 posted on 08/07/2023 4:40:48 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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May not have been necessary but great payback for Pearl Harbor and the treat of American POWs.


175 posted on 08/07/2023 4:48:07 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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