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Does Trump's Shutdown Decision Disqualify a Future Presidency?
Red State ^ | 08/05/2023 | Manic Contrarian

Posted on 08/05/2023 6:12:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

So, I’m having a friendly debate with somebody about this “IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I’M COMING AFTER YOU!” post by Mr. Trump…

My friend, a retired police officer, is a great guy, salt of the earth, etc. He thinks it’s an understandable representation of Trump’s frustration. And maybe it is. But the question remains, did Trump’s attorneys have the chance to see that post before he pushed “send”? Did anybody above the age of 14? Does anybody honestly think had his attorneys seen it, they’d have said, “Yes, Mr. President, we think that’s a really swell post; put that jazz up ASAP”? Does Donald Trump have a moral obligation to listen to his attorneys if they didn’t? Well, when you consider that his working-class supporters, through their small-dollar donations, are picking up his attorneys’ bills, I’d say he has some sense of obligation to try to help them win their case. I mean, good God, people.

What are we doing? The man isn’t somebody you would hire to do a really big and important job like running the largest hotel conglomerate in the world, based on his Truth Social posts alone. Well, we’re also not supposed to re-hire him to run the largest corporation in the history of the world, either. Not at this point. Not after what happened the last time.

I can anticipate the Trump swarm coming down on that statement and asking, what about what happened last time? He had the greatest economy in history, the cheapest gas ever, no world wars, et cetera, et cetera. Fine, but he also shut down the economy and took the repeated advice of two of the most destructive public health bureaucrats in the country, if not the world. Their advice led to some of the most profoundly destructive economic and social impacts the world has seen in decades, if not in a century.

I truly think we need to go back to Herbert Hoover signing the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act in 1930, which caused the Great Depression, to find an equivalent level of presidential mistake.

President Trump agreed to shut down the U.S. economy because of a healthcare panic; the most important, dynamic, complex, and successful market economy on the planet, due to a bad virus, was Hooverian in its depths of disastrousness. And this, of course, also resulted in other developed economies following suit, some even more violent economically and socially than we did. I don’t think that is a hyperbolic statement. I think it is a fair and accurate statement.

Let’s be brutally clear. Hoover’s well-intended but wrongheaded policy caused the Great Depression, and we know how that all went. Equally true, Trump’s well-intended but wrongheaded policy caused untold pain, suffering, and misery, not to mention bankruptcies, foreclosures, suicides, and premature deaths. It also wiped out a crucial block of irreplaceable time for in-person instruction for tens of millions of American kids, the full ramifications of which we’ll not sustain for about a decade.

Trump has disqualified himself from ever being elected president again simply by virtue of that single, solitary decision while in office. And this I believe in the marrow of my bones.



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1 posted on 08/05/2023 6:12:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
"Trump has disqualified himself from ever being elected president again simply by virtue of that single, solitary decision while in office..."

Sho' thing Mr. Biden!

2 posted on 08/05/2023 6:19:58 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: SeekAndFind

You left out that part about Fauci and ms head scarf cohort scaring everyone with dire predictions,

You also forgot to mention $2.00 gas and no wars, China backing off and a few other details insignificant to you, but not to most of us.

All of that makes your article or post BS....worthless to any thinking person.


3 posted on 08/05/2023 6:22:26 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the government can not make worse.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Who cares what some poster on RedState thinks?
4 posted on 08/05/2023 6:22:30 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cool story-

The governors were behind the shutdowns and not all of them shut down.

Getting basic material and well known facts wrong doesn’t do much for the author’s integrity.

One thing missing-upon re-opening to this day-the right to work states fared much better economically.

Even Florida beset by docked cruise ships and stunted tourism had/has lower unemployment than most.


5 posted on 08/05/2023 6:24:07 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: The Duke

Red State...several years ago, actually changed their name to RINO State.


6 posted on 08/05/2023 6:24:51 PM PDT by Herodes
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To: McGruff

Known as Red Stink. Communists.


7 posted on 08/05/2023 6:26:53 PM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: Herodes

RedStink also works


8 posted on 08/05/2023 6:27:19 PM PDT by C210N
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To: SeekAndFind

If Red Stink really believed such a decision disqualifies a president, then they should also expect Biden to step down. First, though, they communists at Red Stink should read the US Constitution and not believe everything they think.


9 posted on 08/05/2023 6:28:05 PM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: SeekAndFind

And ic he hadn’t and millions died then he would be lambasted for that

We demand presidents be perfect. And then wonder why they aren’t


10 posted on 08/05/2023 6:29:32 PM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Does anybody honestly think had his attorneys seen it, they’d have said, “Yes, Mr. President, we think that’s a really swell post; put that jazz up ASAP”?

That’s kind of the point Doea anyone think the leading Republican candidate, previous President should have to vet his communications to his constituents to make sure it will be OK with a DC Judge and a hack Biden special counsel. Does that sound like a free and fair election to you?


11 posted on 08/05/2023 6:32:27 PM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t think that one thing disqualifies him, but it’s the multitude of things along with it that does.

While governors started opening up, Trump insisted he had the power to keep the states closed down.

He makes poor choices in choosing appointments. How will that change the second time around?

He spent trillions unnecessarily.

He signed an Act that allowed early voting, then told his followers not to vote early.

His ego has gotten out of control, and his Truth Social posts sound kind of crazy.

Some of his legal troubles are of his own making, and his past dishonesty and foolishness makes it difficult to think he has integrity now.


12 posted on 08/05/2023 6:45:54 PM PDT by llmc1
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To: SeekAndFind

I wouldn’t agree that Trump is “disqualified”. He did a lot of very good work, and then made a very bad mistake.

Elections are usually decided on a “least of evils” basis, and Trump is still greatly preferable to Biden.

I do not at all think that Trump is the best the Republican party can offer and I hope he isn’t nominated again.


13 posted on 08/05/2023 6:54:33 PM PDT by devere
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To: wiseprince

But, it’s in the marrow of her boner.


14 posted on 08/05/2023 6:54:50 PM PDT by healy61 (.)
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To: llmc1
Some of his legal troubles are of his own making, and his past dishonesty and foolishness makes it difficult to think he has integrity now.

Seriously? His own making? Yep, he was a Russian spy.....

His past dishonesty? Yep, he never owned up to having two scoops of ice cream.....

Lack of integrity? Yep, he didn't start any wars and fought human trafficking. What a horrible man.

Be gone troll.

15 posted on 08/05/2023 7:02:22 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The study estimating 2.2 million deaths in the US was bogus and known early on. However, it didn’t stop anyone from using it.

https://www.heritage.org/public-health/commentary/failures-influential-covid-19-model-used-justify-lockdowns


16 posted on 08/05/2023 7:02:25 PM PDT by e_castillo
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To: llmc1

Recycling debunked talking points, never mind some of those being the opposite of reality, won’t suddenly make them credible.


17 posted on 08/05/2023 7:04:53 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SeekAndFind
IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I’M COMING AFTER YOU

Without definition those words can be interpreted a number of ways? A sinister mind will see it as a threat! A normal mind sees it as queue confusion....

18 posted on 08/05/2023 7:07:09 PM PDT by eeriegeno (Checks and balances??? What checks and balances?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Does Trump's Shutdown Decision Disqualify a Future Presidency?

Can somebody tell me what the editor thought this was supposed to mean?

19 posted on 08/05/2023 7:15:12 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: devere; llmc1

Pound sand, democrat shills!


20 posted on 08/05/2023 7:15:21 PM PDT by Chainmail (How do I feel about ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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