Posted on 07/27/2023 9:26:58 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
Dr Wernher Von Braun was a Nazi rocket scientist in the secret spacecraft development plant at Peenemünde during World War II , then through Operation Paperclip recruited as a high-level NASA aeronautical engineer during the 1960’s and early 70’s. One of Von Braun’s mentors, a founding father of rocketry and astronautics, Herman Oberth said, “It is my thesis that flying saucers are real and that they are space ships from another solar system. I think that they possibly are manned by intelligent observers who are members of a race that may have been investigating our Earth for centuries.”
Below is an excerpt from a video interview of Carol Rosin speaking about her mentor, Dr Wernher Von Braun.
“I met the late Dr Wernher Von Braun in early ’74, at that time Von Braun was dying of cancer, but he assured me that he would live a few more years in order to tell me about the game that was being played, that game being the effort to weaponize space, to control Earth from space and space itself.” o “What was most interesting to me was a repetitive sentence that he said to me over and over again… that was, the strategy that was being used to educate the public and decision makers, and the scare tactics, the spin that was being put on (as justification for our advanced) weapons system… (was based upon) …how we identify an enemy.”
“The enemy at first, (Von Braun) said, (to justify our) …space based weapons system… first the Russians are going to be considered the enemy… then terrorists would be identified… then we were going to identify third world crazies… The next enemy was asteroids… [and] against asteroids we’re going to build space based weapons.”
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Then explain the phenomena that is currently stymieing Congress? At this point there is enough diverse testimony and video to show that these things exist. No one in the midst of the debate is disputing that.
So how do they move with no regard whatsoever for Newton’s Laws of Motion? This is unimaginable with our current level of understanding and technology. Yet all the same it exists.
As to relativity for the moment it describes the universe as we understand it. Even Einstein would agree that as the understanding changes then so too might the Theory of Relativity need to be adjusted, modified, or obviated based upon new evidence. It is not and never was Holy Writ nor should it be treated that way.
“Then explain the phenomena that is currently stymieing Congress? At this point there is enough diverse testimony and video to show that these things exist.”
I’m sorry, but hearsay and video that shows “something” without sufficient reference points is not scientific evidence that demands an explanation. That’s not how science works. If you want to say “explain this evidence that disputes relativity”, you would have to show evidence that comes from rigorous (and duplicated) scientific observation, or from a controlled scientific experiment. Absent that, there is nothing to explain.
“So how do they move with no regard whatsoever for Newton’s Laws of Motion? This is unimaginable with our current level of understanding and technology.”
Well, Newton’s laws of motion have been superceded for over a hundred years now, but more importantly, even though we can still use those laws for a good approximation at our everyday scale, those laws do not apply to everything. For example, a beam of light, or a projected hologram, can move in ways that contradict Newton’s laws of motion. Since nothing on any of these videos proves what we are seeing is an actual material object, there is no reason to assume Newton’s laws would even necessarily apply to whatever they are.
“Even Einstein would agree that as the understanding changes then so too might the Theory of Relativity need to be adjusted, modified, or obviated based upon new evidence.”
Certainly, but Einstein was smart enough to know, for example, when there was a flaw in Lorentz’ electrodynamics, which indicated that the theory was incomplete, that this did not mean that 99.99% of the theory, which had an extraordinary amount of confirmation, was disputable. Instead, Einstein realized the only part in question was the part where a demonstrable flaw had actually been found, which was in the conception of the “aether”. And when Einstein made a theory to supplant Lorentz’, he kept that 99.99% intact and simply added what was necessary for it to work without the flawed portion. Einstein wasn’t some fool that said “we can’t ever be certain of anything because someone might discover something new in the future”.
You really can’t allow that something unexpected could come along to obviate the Theory of Relativity?
It takes Godlessness to believe in extra-terrestrials.
I’m sorry, but you don’t seem to get how science works and I don’t have the time to explain it to you anymore.
You gave me a good laugh.
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If it is “stymieing Congress”, doesn’t that mean they STILL don’t know what the heck it is?
Congress, even if just in secret, should know whatever the MIL knows - if there ARE proven extraterrestrial aliens, then they would KNOW it and not be stymied.
So, it’s still up for debate apparently. Even fighter pilots don’t all know what they’re seeing or mistaking for something else, including a blob on the screen (which is all that most of these look like, anyway).
Well, you could say GR superseded SR, but that’s hardly obviating it!
It is a very grand elaboration on the theme, you might say.
Well, what the heck, I’ll bite. I recall that in my high school days I wrote a ( very brief ) composition, I guess for English Class, about a student in a physics class who challenged the status quo and, in the event, presided over a scene where he sat serenely in his classroom chair while the teacher and the other students floated in space around him.
“You see”, he said, “Things aren’t so simple as you imagine them.”
My teacher wrote in his comments, “Well Lew, there are ways and ways to beat the system, this was very well done.”
... Class of ‘66
Beatles Top albums
“They’re Not Here, They’re Not Coming”
From the Arizona desert
To the Salisbury Plain
Lights on the horizon
Patterns on the grain
Anxious eyes turned upward
Clutching souvenirs
Carrying our highest hopes and our darkest fears
They swear there was an accident back in ‘47
Little man with a great big head
Splattered down from heaven
Government conspiracy; cover-ups and lies
Hidden in the desert under endless skies
Well, it’s a cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold
Post, postmodern world
No time for heroes, no place for good guys
No room for Rocky The Flying Squirrel
They’re not here, they’re not coming
Not in a million years
Turn your weary eyes back homeward
Stop your trembling, dry your tears
You may see the heavens flashing
You may hear the cosmos humming
But I promise you, my brother
They’re not here, they’re not coming
Would they pile into the saucer
Find Orlando’s rat and hug it?
Go screaming through the universe
Just to get McNuggets?
Well, I don’t think so, I don’t think so
It’s much too dangerous, it’s much too strange
Here in a world that won’t give Oprah no home on the range
Well, it’s a cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold
Post, postmodern world
No authenticity, no sign of soul
The radio won’t play George and Merle
They’re not here, they’re not coming
Not in a million years
‘Til we put away our hatred
‘Til we lay aside our fears
You may see the heavens flashing
You may hear the cosmos humming
But I promise you, my sister
They’re not here, they’re not coming
To this garden we were given
And always took for granted
It’s like my daddy told me, “You just bloom where you’re planted.”
Now you long to be delivered
From this world of pain and strife
That’s a sorry substitution for a spiritual life
Well, it’s a cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold
Post, postmodern world
No place for sentiment, no room for romance
Bring back the Duke of Earl
They’re not here, they’re not coming
Not in a million years
Turn your hopes back homeward
Hold your children, dry their tears
You may see the heavens flashing
You may hear the cosmos humming
But I promise you, my brother
They’re not here, they’re not coming
They’re not here, they’re not coming
Not in a million years
‘Til we put away our hatred
And lay aside our fears
You may see the heavens flashing
You may hear the cosmos humming
But I promise you, my brother
They’re not here, they’re not coming
The Beatles had nothing to do with this song. Just a copy and paste error on my part.
No, you’re confusing science with religion. If you want ceratinty then go to church. There is no such thing in science when new discoveries and new understandings frequently crap all over rigidly held orthodoxies.
The Fermi paradox
Italian-American physicist Enrico Fermi’s name is associated with the paradox because of a casual conversation in the summer of 1950 with fellow physicists Edward Teller, Herbert York, and Emil Konopinski. While walking to lunch, the men discussed recent UFO reports and the possibility of faster-than-light travel. The conversation moved on to other topics, until during lunch Fermi blurted out, “But where is everybody?” (although the exact quote is uncertain).
The Fermi paradox is the discrepancy between the lack of conclusive evidence of advanced extraterrestrial life and the apparently high likelihood of its existence. As a 2015 article put it, “If life is so easy, someone from somewhere must have come calling by now.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
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