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To: Boogieman

Then explain the phenomena that is currently stymieing Congress? At this point there is enough diverse testimony and video to show that these things exist. No one in the midst of the debate is disputing that.

So how do they move with no regard whatsoever for Newton’s Laws of Motion? This is unimaginable with our current level of understanding and technology. Yet all the same it exists.

As to relativity for the moment it describes the universe as we understand it. Even Einstein would agree that as the understanding changes then so too might the Theory of Relativity need to be adjusted, modified, or obviated based upon new evidence. It is not and never was Holy Writ nor should it be treated that way.


61 posted on 07/27/2023 1:27:19 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

“Then explain the phenomena that is currently stymieing Congress? At this point there is enough diverse testimony and video to show that these things exist.”

I’m sorry, but hearsay and video that shows “something” without sufficient reference points is not scientific evidence that demands an explanation. That’s not how science works. If you want to say “explain this evidence that disputes relativity”, you would have to show evidence that comes from rigorous (and duplicated) scientific observation, or from a controlled scientific experiment. Absent that, there is nothing to explain.

“So how do they move with no regard whatsoever for Newton’s Laws of Motion? This is unimaginable with our current level of understanding and technology.”

Well, Newton’s laws of motion have been superceded for over a hundred years now, but more importantly, even though we can still use those laws for a good approximation at our everyday scale, those laws do not apply to everything. For example, a beam of light, or a projected hologram, can move in ways that contradict Newton’s laws of motion. Since nothing on any of these videos proves what we are seeing is an actual material object, there is no reason to assume Newton’s laws would even necessarily apply to whatever they are.

“Even Einstein would agree that as the understanding changes then so too might the Theory of Relativity need to be adjusted, modified, or obviated based upon new evidence.”

Certainly, but Einstein was smart enough to know, for example, when there was a flaw in Lorentz’ electrodynamics, which indicated that the theory was incomplete, that this did not mean that 99.99% of the theory, which had an extraordinary amount of confirmation, was disputable. Instead, Einstein realized the only part in question was the part where a demonstrable flaw had actually been found, which was in the conception of the “aether”. And when Einstein made a theory to supplant Lorentz’, he kept that 99.99% intact and simply added what was necessary for it to work without the flawed portion. Einstein wasn’t some fool that said “we can’t ever be certain of anything because someone might discover something new in the future”.


62 posted on 07/27/2023 1:39:04 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: MeganC

If it is “stymieing Congress”, doesn’t that mean they STILL don’t know what the heck it is?

Congress, even if just in secret, should know whatever the MIL knows - if there ARE proven extraterrestrial aliens, then they would KNOW it and not be stymied.

So, it’s still up for debate apparently. Even fighter pilots don’t all know what they’re seeing or mistaking for something else, including a blob on the screen (which is all that most of these look like, anyway).


69 posted on 07/27/2023 4:32:23 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (.Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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