Posted on 06/25/2023 11:56:07 AM PDT by Conservativetpa
In 1928, the late Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis characterized the values underlying the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as embracing the uniquely American right, and the right most valued by civilized persons, which he called the right to be let alone.
Today we call it the right to privacy. He also warned that the greatest dangers...
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Crummy article with very little detail written by a guy who is not a judge.
They are indiscriminately seizing private data, without warrants, without probable cause, without identifying the data to be seized, without naming the persons they target and without even any articulable suspicion -- the lowest bar needed in order to commence an investigation.
I have no interest in defending law enforcement or any government agency here ... but the author is flat-out misrepresenting one important point, and overlooks another one.
1. If the U.S. government is purchasing data from a commercial source that sells it to anyone, then it isn't seizing anything. It's gaining access to something that is already outside the personal control of its original sources.
2. There's a simple reason why the data purchased by the government can be acquired without a warrant: It no longer belongs to the person or people where it originated, so it isn't covered under the Fourth Amendment as "persons, houses, papers and effects.
Oh...I thought Big Sis was back.
Surprise! Criminal government at it again.
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You are arguing about the method by which government obtains information about its citizens, without any concern for the reason or purpose of this gathering. What is the meaning of a person being “secure in his person, papers, and effects” unless a warrant is issued?
The Fourth Amendment doesn’t apply unless it’s YOUR papers, records, etc.
Then citizens should take it out on their cell phone company for selling them out.
That’s all true of course. But it doesn’t change the underlying fact. Washington DC is the most pervasive and intrusive domestic spying operation the world has ever seen. It’s immoral, and beyond the scope of what they have moral right to do. There’s no justification, or rationalization for them to amass such huge quantities of data about individuals in America. All it does is give them leverage against people, and give them father for blackmail and control. It may be legal, but it’s not legitimate. Not the DC cares anymore about morality, decency, or legitimacy. Bottom line, it’s not the behavior of a government that sees itself as wielding power gifted to them by the people. It’s the action of a government that has a people that they rule.
100% correct and some data the government keeps on everyone is in a fashion owned by all of us. IE: Court records, voter records, real property records, government worker communications, arrest records, calls for service records, etc.
Some states like Texas and Florida have Open Record Acts that mandate access to information maintained by the government. In Florida there was a recent exception added for records related to DeSantis regarding his travel records. The legislation, of course, was pushed by DeSantis who is running for president while at the same time collecting a paycheck from Florida.
When Bill & Hillary left Arkansas years ago before they did they essentially demolished access to countless government records in Arkansas.
Hmmm.....
Good points—the cabal has gotten very clever using private firms to do their dirty work for them.
When government merges with corporations to crush the people there is a word for it....
Fascism.
Napolitano served as a New Jersey Superior Court judge from 1987 to 1995: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Napolitano
He actually explains the reason why the 4th amendment is in place, he explains how it was historically perceived, and he explains how the Intel Community flagrantly circumnavigates the law.
What is crummy is just a personal attack.
And off shoring. Just like private business, our IC takes certain activities outside the country in order to avoid US laws / rights.
That can include data mining which would be possible because of the source of the information, i.e. in Israel, enhanced interrogations, detaining folk indefinitely and I’m not referring to GITMO where we let most the @ssholes go and sadly many of them were bad guy and should have stayed there forever.
Politics makes for weird decisions.
Abolish the NSA,!
Probably easier said than done. I’m sure they all do it.
Chief Justice Roberts joined with the four liberals on the Court in the 5-4 majority.
Kennedy, Thomas, Alito and Gorsuch were the four dissenting judges.
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Gee, he was a “judge” 30 years ago? Was he a paperboy prior to that? If yes can we refer to him as “Paperboy Napolitano”?
The usage of a prior job or position to refer to someone in the media is a media construct to give heft to someone the media is using for content. I’ve heard this “judge” spew this or that on TV for years and his “content” is usually just no better than using a regular google search. This “judge” is a puffer fish.
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