Posted on 06/10/2023 6:10:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Yes, it’s true, according to the information contained in the Jack Smith indictment of President Donald John Trump, The Conservative Treehouse likely holds similar “classified documents” as outlined in the case by the special prosecutor.
Once you understand how, you then understand one of the most overlooked nonsensical aspects to the insufferable DOJ and FBI case that has been pushed in the media for the past year.
It is entirely possible for a person, any person, especially a person who follows the news, to possess documents containing “classified markings.” The indictment accuses President Trump of withholding documents containing “classified markings,” a very specifically deployed obtuse wording intended to create the implication of something nefarious where nothing nefarious exists.
There is a big difference between a classified document and a document containing classified markings. As an example, anyone who has looked at the Carter Page FISA application, made public in July 2018, has reviewed a document containing “classified markings.” When a document is declassified, they do not remove the markings.
You might think this is a one-off use of the “documents with classification markings” lingo, but it’s not. This language is the underpinning of the entire DOJ/FBI framework that predicated the raid on Mar-a-Lago. Specifically, neither NARA nor the DOJ-NSD requested President Trump or his team to return Classified Documents. The DOJ demanded the return of any documents that contained “classified markings.” [SEE BELOW]
Because the verbiage is so intentionally obtuse (ie. Lawfare), a fulsome production in compliance with this DOJ demand would include any newspaper or magazine articles that had a picture of the Carter Page FISA application, or any printed online article that might contain the same or similar elements. There is a big difference between asking for a classified document return, and asking for a return of documents that contain “classified markings.” [Example from CTH, below left]
As a result, it is entirely possible, I would say almost certain, that President Trump -and his legal team- returned every document that contained classified information but may have omitted documents that retained “classified markings”. There’s the spirit of compliance, and the letter of absolute compliance when contrast against a very granular interpretation of the request.
It is obvious from the demand, the DOJ/FBI were casting a wide net on the compliance side, knowing that amid hundreds-of-thousands of presidential documents and records, there would be obscure documents with classified markings that had nothing to do with national security. Thus, the “classified markings” establishes a Lawfare compliance tactic.
It will be interesting to see how this nonsense progresses. It becomes easier to call it nonsense, when you simply accept the approach being used. If the DOJ-NSD, FBI, Special Counsel or NARA were genuinely interested in ‘national security issues’, they would not be playing obtuse word games in order to structure court filings simply for media narrative engineering and propaganda purposes.
Again, all of these insufferable pretending elements simply create more avenues for smart legal minds to highlight to the court. The judges can see through this nonsense, and their action or lack thereof becomes part of showcasing their own agenda. Fortunately Judge Cannon has a very solid background on the Mar-a-Lago documents case. She wouldn’t need to have this stuff pointed out to her; she has already experienced it.
In the interim, for your own conversational points with friends and family, simply draw their attention to the difference between Classified Documents and documents containing “classified markings,” eventually everyone except the rabid orange-man-bad moonbats will figure out the games being played.
“It seems like a goof article.”
It is not a goof article. He started off with sarcasm to make a point. Does anyone have reading comprehension anymore?
Hillary was never President and did not have the powers to declassify like President Trump had. Also quoting Business Insider is like quoting something from the Democrat Party.
“Trump actually said ‘This is secret information. Look, look at this’ on a recording”
Witness: What “secret information” from that document did you learn as a result that would have been advantageous to a foreign country?
We had a plan to attack Iran.
Don’t you think Iran thought that already?
Why, of course! The DoD would be negligent not to have attack plans on countries that hate ours.
If you went to Iranian embassy and told your story what do you think they would say?
We knew Trump was out to get us?
I think Trump has some great arguments on his behalf regarding the boxes at Mar-a-Lago. First, the government never setup an office of the National Archives in his hometown, to house these documents, as was done for previous Presidents. Also, the Federal Court ruling that allowed Bill Clinton to keep some classified items as “personal items” when he was challenged on it. There’s plenty of other defenses on these claims as well, and it appears they’re trying to unfairly railroad him on those charges.
The charges over the Iran war plan though are a lot more concerning. Nobody else ever accused of “mishandling” classified documents has ever had any evidence of this type presented against them. If Trump was discussing that info with reporters, and possibly even showing them the documents per the recording, that’s on a whole different level.
Joe Biden just declared my entire Tom Clancy book collection to be Top Secret. He says that they are full of National Secrets including plans for nuclear terrorism and CIA Methods and Operations
That’s about 12,000 pages, And Garland is going to prosecute me for each page individually. I guess I’m in big trouble now.
still classified documents
Some DoJ lawyer that has experience in classified materials cases should have proofread the indictment.
I only looked at the indictment for 30 minutes. Was each document in the case reviewed to verify it should still be classified?
What about all the State Department emails that were found on Huma Abedin's laptop that her husband Anthony Weiner saw?
-PJ
Goof was a typo... I was trying to type in good which was error corrected by my G**d D****d phone while waiting for my wife.
Fail? Are you kidding? Maybe it’s over your head
They were found there, supposedly the result of an accidental Blackberry sync issue, but I don't think it was ever assumed much less proven that Weiner even knew they were on there.
To equate to this situation with Trump, Humma would have been telling reporters there's classified on her laptop, while they're all sitting in an unapproved facility, and telling them "Look at this!"
The core problem was that no person at the White House tried to recover classification marked documents from President Trump.
Mr. President, are you finished with the Iran war plan? It is still signed out.
I did not have the combination to my department’s safe. Two people had to sign out each item and sign it back in. I did not keep items longer than I had to because I was responsible for each item.
-PJ
Bkmk
I believe the original video transcript said "... a secret ...", yet you repeated the text several times without the "a".
This is the bots' next mission, to poison the jury pool by mis-quoting the original transcript, shading 'a secret' to 'Classified Top Secret', aka, lawfare.
You've really got a point there. In this alleged AUDIO tape of Trump "showing classified war plans to reporters" you can clearly see Trump handing the documents to the reporters and the audio even zooms in on the classified markings. He's toast!
I'm confused.
Are you saying that Huma Abedin's Blackberry was connected to Hillary Clinton's illegal bathroom server? Was this a personal Blackberry that synced to her personal laptop computer, a government Blackberry that connected to Hillary's illegal bathroom server, or a government/personal Blackberry that connected to her private computer?
How many crimes are we talking about here? Was Huma using a personal Blackberry to conduct government business? Did she transfer State Department documents to her personal laptop via a personal Blackberry or a government Blackberry?
Just because it was an "accidental sync" doesn't make it any less illegal. Were these State Department documents being transferred via open cellular networks?
It doesn't matter if Weiner never saw them, Huma Abedin was just as guilty of mishandling the documents as Hillary Clinton was.
-PJ
HA! Good one. Took me a moment to grasp the snark.
Ya so say an edited recording transcript. Or don’t you read any of the posted articles umm
“alleged AUDIO tape...see...zoom in...”
I don’t know what to say. Just read my mind.
LOL. Hillary’s server contents ended up all over the internet as a result of the Wikileaks exposure.
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