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How severely can I be disciplined at work for being accused of making a female co-worker feel uncomfortable via text?
Avvo ^ | November 6, 2022 | Anonymous

Posted on 05/24/2023 7:46:17 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat

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To: Reno89519

Very simple

In today’s day and age, unless you’re going to suddenly identify as Trans, I believe the phrase is “ You’re f*cked” .


61 posted on 05/24/2023 9:48:10 PM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. Even more so.)
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To: dandiegirl

My daughter was recounting a co-worker (guy) at work asking her if she wore a bikini or a one-piece swimsuit just the other day. Then somehow their birthdays got brought up and he was talking about the compatibility of their two astrological signs.

“Yeah - he’s a bit weird. Nice enough, just a bit off. It didn’t bother me too much, I just try to change the subject.”

Although she does complain about some of the customers. “I’m just being nice and friendly and doing my job and they think then it is okay to hit on me - what jerks!”


62 posted on 05/24/2023 9:55:42 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

So you posted this story and we are supposed to comment but you are really asking a question in the first post which is maybe similar to the posted article? Why not just thread your own situation in a vanity post and not make it so confusing?


63 posted on 05/24/2023 10:28:40 PM PDT by webheart
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To: CheshireTheCat

“How severely can I be disciplined at work for being accused of making a female co-worker feel uncomfortable via text?”

If you were a guy, I’d say worse case you won’t need one of those “tuck friendly” bathing suits they sell at Target.


64 posted on 05/24/2023 10:32:03 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: CWW

The problem is it’s in writing. A “he said she said” would give you a better chance at a defense. Be prepared for the worst. A friend of mine was terminated for telling a female coworker that was working late, “having my to stay after work? You must have been a naughty girl.”


65 posted on 05/24/2023 11:03:28 PM PDT by lone star annie ( )
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To: CheshireTheCat
In one text, I said she was "pretty and young".

Never ever do that.

66 posted on 05/24/2023 11:04:30 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Time to “identify” as “trans.” The only way to survive in the woke corporate environment is to outrank your false accuser in the hierarchy of victimhood.


67 posted on 05/24/2023 11:22:37 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.y )
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To: Paladin2

Them chicks be crazy.... : )

If you look at some gal, some get ideas you are attracted to them.
If you do not look at them they are insulted that you are not attracted to them.
If you say “hello, how is everything” they think you are making a move on them.
If you just say “hello” and nothing else they think you still are attractive to them but are weird.

It ain’t just chicks. The gossipers are as bad, men and babes. They throw out comments and never say it started with them. They heard about it thru the grapevine.

BTW never say chicks or babes or gal at work : )
Or look at photos of them on a company computer.....

Microsoft Office and OneDrive at work will record all writings and upload all files to a server. All web browser history is stored on a network server.

At my last job I had a manager who looked at your web history. He even commented I did not go to game sites and movie sites like the others. He was also a lousy boss who drove people to find other jobs just so he could hire someone cheaper and collect a bonus for saving money so look out for those types.


68 posted on 05/24/2023 11:25:19 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Paladin2

I was a high school teacher super bad attitude got written up 304 timed no joke kept job 28 years retired made a bunch in real estate I once went 3 months without getting written up


69 posted on 05/24/2023 11:41:58 PM PDT by genghis (Cathinkngact only reason go after e puthan 5nu0 inbbiedComlpln)
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To: Reno89519
I used to work on the Joint Staff at the Pentagon. Got into a minor beef with a female co-worker and after explaining my position three times, her reply to me was a stern Foxtrot Yankee. Being retired Navy, my inner sailor emerged and I said, "not tonight, I got a headache."

She then reports me for harrassment or something. It blew over, but I only spoke to that woman on a professional basis after that.

For years, I made it a point not to comment on any females dress or looks. The closest I ever came to doing so, is when the same woman as above (this was before the FY incident) came into work wearing the exact same clothes as the day before. My comment at the time - "What, did you slepp in those clothes." I was told later by another female co-worker, that the woman I made the comment to was so embarrassed, after work she went shoping and purchased several wardrobes.

70 posted on 05/25/2023 12:46:54 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Reno89519

So CISCO is worse than ever?


71 posted on 05/25/2023 12:47:32 AM PDT by jdt1138 (Where ever you go, there you are.)
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To: dfwgator

My social life never revolved around my work


72 posted on 05/25/2023 12:49:53 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
Or, even better, work somewhere where there are no women.

I work at a small manufacturing company with no women. It’s great.

73 posted on 05/25/2023 1:00:21 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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To: CheshireTheCat
He is in a position to see violations based on alerts he gets on the system about things. It is literally his job to look into these and take some sort of action

It sound like your friend is in a cybersecurity role, perhaps monitoring for insider threats. I have a friend in a similar role for a large corporation.

Statistics show that most intrusions come from inside a company, not from outside hackers. Insider threat security monitors employees to ensure that they don't access intellectual property unless their job requires it. Most times, employees don't realize what they did and internal investigations clear them of wrongdoing, but sometimes disgruntled employees do malicious things.

If your friend's company is serious about cybersecurity, they must be prepared for people who get caught to say or do anything to deflect from their wrongdoing, including making accusations against the people whose job it is to monitor for insider threats. From your description, is this a case where the woman who "violated a procedure" didn't get the promotion because of the violation and is blaming it on your friend rather than her own actions?

If so, it would be wrong for HR to undermine the company's cybersecurity every time someone who gets caught accuses the security staff by investigating the security staff. The nature of the insider threat cybersecurity role puts those people in the direct line of fire for these kinds of accusations, and if the company doesn't have their backs then they will always have turnover in this critical role to the survival of the company.

-PJ

74 posted on 05/25/2023 1:43:21 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: CWW
I would have to say that women are truly irrational.

There's a lot of videos on You Tube where young women, in their late 20’s and 30’s who whine and complain that in work environments men simply don't talk to them unless it strictly business related and they complain that in gyms, clubs and bars it's pretty much the same thing. A large number of these women complain also they're afraid that they will be spending the rest of their lives living, and dying alone. Well girls, you wanted ''empowerment''. You got it.

75 posted on 05/25/2023 1:43:29 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
It is best not to communicate with women in a work environment.

Yep! And NEVER be alone with ANY woman at work without a witness. NEVER.

76 posted on 05/25/2023 2:27:10 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Das dicke Ende kommt noc!)
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To: Jonty30
The only defense a man has in a hostile workplace is keep every conversation work oriented. If they try to be friendly, re-orient the conversation back to work in some way. You can’t win by being social.

Exactly. Its sad that it has to be this way but, that's what HR and Feminazis have done. I can only be social - if at all - with male colleagues at work. Its best to keep your social life utterly separate from work. Once again, this is another reason working from home is vastly superior. Its much easier to keep conversations limited to strictly business and there is much less scope for anyone to accuse you of anything.....and understand that if you are a White Heterosexual Male, you are Target Numero Uno. There is nothing those HR types would love more than a chance to wreck your career. This happened to a friend of mine recently though he seems thankfully, to have landed on his feet.

77 posted on 05/25/2023 3:10:18 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: CheshireTheCat
Let me add one really important note: Do not joke at work with women around! Nothing will get you in trouble faster than a joke. Do not try to be funny or cute or amusing. That will all be interpreted by any who have a mind to as "harassment".
78 posted on 05/25/2023 3:25:34 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: CheshireTheCat

tell everyone to FO... if you get let go then that isnt a company I would want to work for anyway!! WTF do you people put up with this shit for!!??


79 posted on 05/25/2023 3:33:58 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: Organic Panic

” If he does manage to keep his job, they are going to make his life a living hell in that company until he quits.”

Exactly


80 posted on 05/25/2023 3:40:16 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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