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WESTERN DELUSIONS ABOUT RUSSIA AND UKRAINE ARE GENUINE
Sonar 21 ^ | 5/21/23 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 05/21/2023 4:02:13 PM PDT by Kazan

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1 posted on 05/21/2023 4:02:13 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

This will certainly be denied by those who suffer from Russia-phobia which our media has been blasting for decades as well as Politicians.


2 posted on 05/21/2023 4:05:52 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: Kazan

The Democrats must have been doing some really awful stuff in Ukraine.


3 posted on 05/21/2023 4:06:48 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: Kazan
No amount of facts will change his mind. He is locked in, as is the Biden Administration, in portraying Russia as a rapacious, authoritarian state hell-bent on conquering the world.

I wouldn't put it past this administration to attack St. Petersburg or Vladivostok with a nuclear sub. It's how reckless and single-minded they are.

4 posted on 05/21/2023 4:10:27 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: caww

Russians could only get a single 70 year old tank to their victory parade. Proves which army was annihilated in Bakhmut.


5 posted on 05/21/2023 4:14:04 PM PDT by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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That's because they has so many tanks in the battlefield, sitting there ready to go.

You and your neocon buddies are fools. And, this obsession with Russia is endangering us all.

6 posted on 05/21/2023 4:16:05 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
I fear you're right.

The citizens of this country have had to rely on Putin and the Russians to show restraint. If they hadn't, we'd already be involved in WWIII or a nuclear war.

7 posted on 05/21/2023 4:17:22 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

This is very one sided analysis. And missing the obvious counter.

Well if Bahkmut is valuable please state what the value is? The only value at this point is symbolic which does matter, but of strategic value not much for either side. Except for who lost more people and at what proportion.

Depending on who you believe Ukraine either took a lot more casualties than Russia or Russia took more than Ukraine.

But common sense says the defender loses less than the offense.


8 posted on 05/21/2023 4:17:51 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: caww

“This will certainly be denied by those who suffer from Russia-phobia...”

I don’t fear Russia; so, I’m not a Russophobe; and, I suspect, there are a great many FReepers with whom you disagree that are not Russophobes, either. We don’t fear Russia; rather, we do not trust it — at all. There is a big difference between fear and distrust. But, I don’t think you know that.


9 posted on 05/21/2023 4:18:17 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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Not behind paywall, article cited
But Simplicious does great work…and has a tip jar

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-52023-bakhmut-falls-artemovsk


10 posted on 05/21/2023 4:18:31 PM PDT by silverleaf (It’s not propaganda just because you disagree with it. )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

“I wouldn’t put it past this administration to attack St. Petersburg or Vladivostok with a nuclear sub. It’s how reckless and single-minded they are.”

Started drinking early today, have you?


11 posted on 05/21/2023 4:19:26 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Kazan

“And, this obsession with Russia is endangering us all.”

YOU are the one who is obsessed with Russia.


12 posted on 05/21/2023 4:20:27 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Kazan

“The citizens of this country have had to rely on Putin and the Russians to show restraint. If they hadn’t, we’d already be involved in WWIII or a nuclear war.”

Which would have been STARTED by Russia.


13 posted on 05/21/2023 4:21:31 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: for-q-clinton

Not in this case

In fact, the assault force Wagner was probably only about 1/2- 1/3 of the 90K force the Ukes deployed to defense

This battle will change the teaching in War Colleges


14 posted on 05/21/2023 4:21:46 PM PDT by silverleaf (It’s not propaganda just because you disagree with it. )
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To: ought-six

still no answer?


15 posted on 05/21/2023 4:26:01 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston

To what? I was unaware you had even asked me a question. What was it?


16 posted on 05/21/2023 4:26:49 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Kazan

The cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias is strong in this thread.


17 posted on 05/21/2023 4:27:07 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: Kazan

reminds me of oak ( joke ) Island

drill another hole over here


18 posted on 05/21/2023 4:27:58 PM PDT by Firehath
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To: silverleaf

LOL. Any proof of that?


19 posted on 05/21/2023 4:28:42 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: Kazan

Russia’s delusions about being a superpower are now obvious to the rest of the world.


20 posted on 05/21/2023 4:30:06 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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