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1 posted on 04/30/2023 8:30:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Doesn’t convince me.


2 posted on 04/30/2023 8:32:14 PM PDT by IDFbunny (Fat shaming works.)
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Funny how Hersh’s circumstantial evidence and inferences are bunk, yet this guy’s are solid gold truth...

But no one including this guy has convincingly explained just why Russia would destroy their own moneymaking infrastructure.


4 posted on 04/30/2023 8:42:01 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Truth is not hate speech.)
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Its possible. Biden made dumbass public comments and the Russians decide its great plausible deniability to blame on dunce Biden and use this as leverage to get more people to side with them globally.

We’ve done false flags. Other nations have done false flags. Russia is hardly a truthful country, its still run by commies.

This whole thing sucks. There is no right side.


5 posted on 04/30/2023 8:44:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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So Russian ships were in the ocean. RedState has always been a neo-con site and Erickson is a Chickenhawk RINO to the point Rush Limbaugh dropped him as a guest host.


6 posted on 04/30/2023 8:44:50 PM PDT by MTBobcat (The “rank-and-file” are as corrupted as their leadership.)
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I’m no Putin apologist, but this is the dumbest propaganda I’ve ever read.


8 posted on 04/30/2023 8:47:21 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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I believe the US blew the Nordstream pipeline. A YOUTUBE channel named “Monkey Werx” tracks flights and was able to trace a specific flight at the right time (US flight) and the details were precisely ‘right’, for example the flight bumped up in altitude right at the location one would expect after releasing the weight of a bomb/missile. So no, I don’t think it was Russia.


9 posted on 04/30/2023 8:48:06 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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These neocon warmongers reject logic, and “Occam’s Razor’ is an unknown concept to them.


10 posted on 04/30/2023 8:54:37 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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I object to #5 The repair cost of the pipelines was insured.

any insurance company will claim the damage was caused by an act of war, therefore no payout. Good luck with Russia proving it was not.

13 posted on 04/30/2023 8:59:27 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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Doesn’t matter what Hersh says— it’s what the Swedes didn’t say to cover for the Norwegians working with the US. Biden the poopy mouth said he’d do it— cause he can’t keep his fn’ mouth shut in any case. And the US blew it up... to “aid” the Germans in committing to the NATO path by coercion vs. the Russian monopoly on gas to Germany (the sanctions still are not working).

The old energy resellers are aligned as they were 40 years ago— back to the middlemen. Back to the all the “others” including Iran. Incredible— Jimmah Cahtah redux. What a genius JoeBama is as he is ripping our economy to shreds.


15 posted on 04/30/2023 9:05:54 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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Here is an article from September of 2022.

“Why Putin would want to blow up Nord Stream 2, and the advantages it gives him
The Russian leader has a record of weaponising fuel supplies and believes his people can endure economic pain longer than western Europe”
28 September 2022
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/09/27/putins-nord-stream-2-sabotage-sends-warning-will-blow-pipes/


16 posted on 04/30/2023 9:06:17 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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The version was idiotic since day one. This ship doesn’t change it.


17 posted on 04/30/2023 9:08:35 PM PDT by NorseViking
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Germany Warns Russia Over Nord Stream ‘Consequences’
Moscow Times
By AFP
Dec. 18, 2021
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/12/18/germany-warns-russia-over-nord-stream-consequences-a75870

“German Economic Affairs Minister Robert Habeck warned in an interview published on Saturday of ‘severe consequences’ for the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline from Russia to Germany if Moscow attacked Ukraine...The new German government threatened to block the pipeline from operating if Russia invades Ukraine. ‘In the event of further escalation this gas pipeline could not come into service,’ Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said.”


19 posted on 04/30/2023 9:23:45 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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Russian ‘Special Vessel’ Spotted Before Nord Stream Blasts – Danish Media
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/04/28/russian-special-vessel-spotted-before-nord-stream-blasts-danish-media-a80972

20 posted on 04/30/2023 9:24:51 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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BIDEN: "If Russia invades Ukraine there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring end to it"

How America [Joe Biden] Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

22 posted on 04/30/2023 9:29:29 PM PDT by henbane ( )
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The pipelines were not producing income; they were costing money to operate.

(Nordstream one was flowing, only interrupted by Canadian and German refusal to return compressors out for repair, and EU seizure of Russian bank accounts and cutting them off swift)

The war forced Nord Stream customers to find other sources, and it was unlikely that Nord Stream would operate again.

(The customers were forced to find other sources because THEY refused to allow N2 to turn on, and refused to pay. Nordstream 2 was completed and Germany, under US pressure, refused to let it turn on)

It made it clear to Germany what the price was for helping Ukraine.

(Yeah, actually it was the USA, Brits ensuring Germany did not relax the sanctions because it was killing the German manufacturing sector)

It avoided breach of contract financial penalties that would hit Gazprom if Germany desired to re-open the pipeline, and Russia refused.

(IF.... Russia never refused to send gas. Germany refused to let it flow or pay for it. And to this day, Russian gas flows through Ukraine, into the EU)

The repair cost of the pipelines was insured.

(It is insured by German insurers Allianz and Munich Re. Think Russia would blow it themselves, sure to be caught and see their insurers deny the claim? OTOH, if the EU never intends to repair it, no claim would be coming, and there is significant NATO motive to pretend Russia bombed theirself)

Breaching the pipelines at the deepest part means that the shortest area would be flooded, and the damage would be the cheapest to repair.

(It was breached as far away from Russia as possible, right under the watchful eye of the Poles who harassed them as it was built with warships. It was near Denmark and Norway and Germany.... as far from the Russian end of the Baltic as possible)

Last but not least. Amazing that all the satellites, swarming NATO spy planes saw nothing.

All of those reasons could also be accomplished by turning off the spigot. And If they wanted to teach Germany a lesson, they would have cut off the Ukraine routed gas line to leave Germany Nordstream as the only alternative.

And it was blown up the day after the pipeline from Norway opened. Just a coincidence.

And last, I thought some Ukrainians in a motorboat did it.

But nice CIA cover story.


23 posted on 04/30/2023 9:52:35 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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25 posted on 04/30/2023 10:10:30 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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Total US DeepState/CIA/StateDept,WhiteHouse Psyop propaganda bullshiite.


27 posted on 04/30/2023 10:26:35 PM PDT by A strike ("The worse, the better."- Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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And I never really trusted this site. Now I really don’t.


28 posted on 04/30/2023 10:40:31 PM PDT by Revel
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presence of the SS-750 - bttt


29 posted on 04/30/2023 11:15:54 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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Biden bragged about blowing it up.


32 posted on 05/01/2023 12:01:06 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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