-PJ
Posted on 02/23/2023 12:42:02 PM PST by Rummyfan
Here’s the most important fact about plug-in electric vehicles (EV), courtesy of the liberal content-creators at Wikipedia in the opening sentence of their post on “Government Incentives for Plug-in Electric Vehicles:”
Such incentives “have been established around the world to support policy-driven adoption of plug-in electric vehicles. These incentives mainly take the form of purchase rebates, tax exemptions and tax credits, and additional perks that range from access to bus lanes to waivers on fees (charging, parking, tolls, etc.).” (Emphasis added).
The campaign by the Western elite in the U.S. and Europe to force everybody else to stop driving cars and trucks powered by fossil-fueled internal combustion engines and adopt EVs instead is a product of the elite’s policy choices, not ours.
No matter that hundreds of millions of Americans own and depend upon their cars and trucks to earn their livings, go where they can purchase the basic necessities of life, and visit any place they choose to go to in this vast land.
President Biden has made a regulatory policy decision that half of all vehicles sold in America will be EVs by 2030. He is spending billions of tax dollars to install half a million EV charging stations around the country to serve the anticipated explosion in demand for electric “refills.”
And federal tax credits are available to help obscure the fact EVs remain extremely costly for consumers and offer unproven maintenance and reliability records. No wonder that, despite the immense pressure being put upon consumers to buy EVs, they still only make up about seven percent of all new-vehicle purchases.
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It is currently 20* F in the Okanagan valley (1 PM) and it is supposed to drop to 0 or lower over the next few days.
Electric is ideal for around town in mild weather, but come bad weather or extended distance, and ICE wins every time.
It won’t be long before the pendulum swings back and reports of the massive pollution electric vehicles and their batteries cause will halt their production.
-PJ
I expect zero point energy will completely change the world but just when is the question.
As someone who grew up with muscle cars in the 60’s-70s, I love ICE cars. But EVs will continue to increase in popularity (and yeah, I understand about cold weather, hot weather with the AC on, etc).
$49,388 was the average new car price in the U.S. in Jan. 2023 according to the Kelly Blue Book folks.
If you want to see where the EV market is headed, look at the upcoming Hyundai Ioniq 6. The base car at $42K has a 270 mile range, but spend $46K and you can get one with 360 mile range.
The thing is, the Ioniq 6 is very close to a 2023 Toyota Camry in size, will accelerate like a banshee, and according to Car & Driver, rides and handles well. Car & Driver also notes that a 350-kW charger can take a nearly empty Ioniq from 10 percent to 80 percent in less than 20 minutes, which is getting to be a common recharge time on a lot of EVs.
We’re reaching a turning point with EVs. Car makers are starting to produce EVs that are real cars, not just frumpy little run arounds on the low end, and high priced show pieces for rich folks on the high end.
The fact that the prices on some pretty impressive EVs are dropping below the average price of new cars means they’re going to get the attention of a lot of folks. Me, I’m sticking with my ICE automobile, for now.
-1F for the high today [and it’s very sunny]. Another ~-16 F night forecast.
We’re a “bit” south and east of the Okanogan.
Golf cart with a trailer full of batteries
Any discussion of motive power in vehicles that doesn’t include all three of the most critical elements — energy storability, density and reliability — is a waste of time.
“Making hydrogen gas is energy intensive.”
Not really an objection. All we need is LOTS of cheap electrical power, and we can get that from newly developed nuclear power generation plants. Not your grandfather’s uranium-fueled Light Water reactor, which are now nearly obsolete, but from a new technology developed for smaller applications, a very small modular reactor, with generation capabilities in the 200 kWe to 5 MWe range.
The technology exists, and it can be delivered on order. The design is modular, and the units can be assembled on site, with components that can be trucked in. The system can be expanded by adding more modules for increased need. And it can be set up independent of any grid, so it may be placed in very remote locations, or as a way of assuring sufficient independence from the grid for industrial decentralization.
And best of all, it does not depend on either wind or solar power. The design can run flat-out 24/7/365 for YEARS before refueling. Power output can be modulated by redirecting the steady flow of power to distribution of the heat output to other uses, both industrial and residential.
The production of hydrogen from the electrolysis of water is just one of these multiple applications of power output. Sure, there is some energy loss, but how much energy is lost with long-distance transmission of power over the grid? And here the grid is not even necessary.
“Americans are the dumbest people in the world!”
Democrats are the dumbest people in the world.
Us Americans are stuck sharing the USA with them.
Given American’s observations of rights we can’t get rid of our problem like the German Democrats(Nazis) tried to in Europe.
The problem with EV’s is that the current grid can not handle charging even 1/4 of the current amount of automobiles.
For everyone to drive an EV we are going to have to increase the amount of copper, nickel, lithium, cobalt and several other minerals roughly 3-5x what we are currently producing. Plus the mining and processing of these minerals is mostly done in Russia and China. Most of the cobalt is mined by SLAVES in the Congo.
Then we are going to have to produce more electricity. How?
Wind mills, Solar, hydro dams, nuclear, natural gas, COAL ?
When was the last time we built a new nuclear power plant?
uh they want to limit personal transportation to the rich and powerful
everyone else will have to use public transportation
they always have a hidden agenda
Range anxiety gives you a chance to bond with passengers! Just carry a large gas generator with you with lots of gas or a long extension cord and you should be all right! And yes a good fire extinquisher.
“. . . as soon as your first battery goes kaput and you can’t afford to pay more than you paid for the car to replace it, you are riding the bus.”
Likely the real objective behind the 2035 deadline. Force the people into crowded cities where the economics will compel public transportation. Eliminating individual car ownership eliminates freedom of travel.
Assume an EV with “range” of 300 miles. One would not be wise to deplete the battery much below 20%. Also when recharging, it takes increasingly amounts of time to get above 80%. I’ve seen a lot of recharging times quoted as “...to 80%”. Therefore, the “range” of 300 miles is, under ideal conditions, at best, 180 miles. Those fast recharge events? Each one reduces the battery capacity and service life.
If EVs were fantastic, the government would not mandate them consumers would be begging for them. If EVs were fantastic, the government would not subsize them, they would not have to.
The truth is EVs are not designed or desired to replace each ICE vehicle. They are a “stalking horse”. With communists, the issue is never the issue. EVs are there only as a theoretical option. Once ICE is banned, which they will, most people will be forced to move to dense urban cities giving up all freedom of movement. That is the plan. That is the purpose of EVs. EVs are there to give a false sense of choice.
electric vehicles are a dead-end
Hydrogen production does not require a steady supply of electricity. You can then use tidal flows to generate electricity for hydrogen hydrolysis. Hydrogen becomes an energy storage system that will accept multiple inputs that are steady or intermittent.
Storing hydrogen gaseous hydrogen is a huge problem.
<>doesn’t mean we need to have a hate boner for superior future technology<>
Over a hundred years ago, electric autos vied with ICE vehicles.
ICE won.
EVs aren’t superior. The energy density of batteries is a fraction of gasoline.
Unless forced on an unwilling America, EVs are not inevitable.
<>superior future technology<>
LOL. Free beer tomorrow.
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