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Raise The Social Security Age To (At Least) 75
Mises Institute ^ | 01/29/2023 | Ryan McMaken

Posted on 01/29/2023 9:19:11 PM PST by SeekAndFind

On January 10, the French government announced plans to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64.

The change would mean that after 2027, workers in France would have to work 43 years to qualify for a government pension, instead of 42 years. French workers promptly took to the street in protest decrying even this very small reduction government welfare.

Like many countries in Western Europe and North America, France faces a major demographic problem in that its population is aging and demanding ever larger amounts of public pension funds.

Meanwhile, the younger working-age population is shrinking as birth rates continue to fall. So, the French state is looking for ways to stay relatively solvent.

For Americans who follow our own old-age social benefits systems, this problem will seem quite familiar. Although the US regime is not in as dire fiscal straits as the French one, the US's federal government nonetheless faces huge and growing obligations to current and future pensioners. This will only grow more urgent as the population continues to age and as the numbers of prime-age workers stagnates.

Indeed, the Social Security scheme is an excellent example of how government programs, once established, gradually become far more costly—in real per capita terms, not just aggregate terms—as time goes by. Many recipients now spend decades collecting benefits on a program that had been sold as a program only for people who were too old, exhausted, and injured to work at all. Meanwhile, fewer and fewer workers are called upon to foot the inflated bill.

At the center of this mission creep for Social Security is the fact that Social Security benefits originally began at age 65. Yet, at that same time, the life expectancy at birth was below 65. (It's much higher now.) Many people lived well past 60 back then, of course, but not nearly as many as do today. In other words, a far smaller fraction of the work force collected Social Security, and for a shorter period. Today, however, more workers live long enough to collect Social Security, and they now receive payments for longer. That's a sure way to inflate the cost to taxpayers of old-age benefits. (It's also a sure way to encourage able-bodied workers to leave the workforce, thus tilting the economy more toward consumption rather than production.)

Even if we ignore the moral problems presented by transferring huge amounts of income from current workers to pensioners, the realities of demographics in the twenty-first century mean the minimum "retirement age" should really be at least 75. Too long has a shrinking pool of workers been forced to fund pensioners who start collecting government benefits in their 60s and can now expect to be on the dole for 20 years or more. Moreover, this phenomenon is growing. Social Security increasingly forces today's workers to shoulder an ever-greater burden on their ability to earn a living and support their families. The days of subsidized extended vacations for able-bodied 65-year olds must come to an end, but until that day comes, the damage can at least be limited by raising the age of eligibility.

The Original Justification for Social Security

When it was being sold to the public in 1935, those promoting Social Security took advantage of sentiments that people over age 65 were essentially too old to work, and thus would soon fall into poverty. This certainly would have seemed plausible at the time. Most jobs in 1935 involved significant amounts of physical labor whether we're talking about cleaning laundry, waiting tables, farming, mining coal, or building houses. Work was also more dangerous—as historical work injury data makes clear—and workers were more likely to sustain injuries that would render one unable to work. For example, a 65-year-old simply could not safely perform much of the work required at a steel mill. (As shown in this 1944 video on the steel industry.)

Especially important to efforts at presenting Social Security as fiscally prudent was the fact that with a minimum age of 65, the number of Social Security beneficiaries would also be limited by the realities of life expectancy. In 1940, for example—the first year that pensioners could receive benefits—life expectancy at birth was only 61 for men and 65 for women. Indeed, even if we eliminate the toll of childhood diseases on life expectancy, the numbers do not change dramatically. In 1940, total life expectancy for persons over 15 years of age was 68. Moreover, in 1940 the percentage of the population surviving from age 21 to 65 was only 54 percent for males and 61 percent for females. But what about those who actually made it to age 65? In 1940, a male at age 65 would, on average live another 13 years. A female would live another 15 years. So, when looking at the work force in 1940, we can eliminate nearly half of the men and about 40 percent of the women as likely future Social Security recipients. About half of those who actually made it to 65 would then collect benefits for no more than 15 years.

Now let's contrast that with life expectancy realities in our own time.

Life expectancy at birth today is 78 years, and for those who reach age 15, it is 80. for both men and women, more than 75 percent of the population reaching 21 will survive to age 65. That's an increase of 50 percent for men, and around 30 percent for women. For those reaching age 65 in 2022, males will live another 18 years on average, while females will live another 20 years.

These growing commitments from Social Security are further aggravated by the fact that while the retiree population is growing, growth in the work force is stagnating. Since 1960, the total number of Social Security recipients has increased by 364 percent. Meanwhile, the prime age population (age 25-54) has grown by only 90 percent. Put another way, in 1960, there were 4.6 prime age workers per Social Security recipient. In 2020, that number was 1.9.

Now let's look at this in dollar terms. Per prime-age worker, inflation-adjusted dollars spent on SS amounted to $9,590 in 2022. That's up from $4,814 in 1980, or an increase of 99 percent over the period. During the same period, inflation-adjusted weekly earnings for workers increased 16 percent. Part of this discrepancy is due to the fact SS payments are consistently—as mandated by law—bumped up by cost-of-living adjustments to account for price inflation. Wage workers enjoy no such guarantees.

Social Security benefits are rapidly outpacing both population growth and earnings growth. In the aggregate, the program is more generous (toward pensioners) than ever.

To stanch some of the bleeding from today's workers who get an increasingly raw deal on this, the time has come to stop the ever-upward creep in how much Social Security recipients collect.

As noted above, we see that, on average, men and women collect Social Security for a period that has grown by five years since 1940—an increase of 38 percent for men, and 33 percent for women. To even put a dent in this, the minimum age for SS needs to rise to 70. Yet, even this is much too low given how turning 65 in 2022 is nothing like what it was in 1940. Ever since it was first put forward, Social Security has assumed that reaching the age of 65 is also closely associated with disability. That may have been a good assumption in 1935 when work was more often dangerous, likely to produce disability, and medical care was much less adept at addressing these disabilities.

In 2022, however, the word "disabled" hardly describes the majority of Americans in the 65-74 age range. Indeed, only one quarter of this population reports having any disability at all. The share of Americans from 65-74 who report poor health has been declining, as has the proportion of workers in physically demanding jobs. It's unclear why 100% of these workers would require government income subsidies. In any case, workers who are actually disabled would qualify for disability benefits even if the age is raised. Moreover, a male worker today who reaches age 75 can still expect to live another 11 years. A female can expect to live even longer. Raising the age to 75 still wouldn't eliminate a taxpayer-subsidized "official" retirement, but the change certainly would reduce the length of time today's workers toil in a state of indentured servitude to today's pensioners.

One thing raising the age has going for it is that it's been done before. A 1983 change very gradually increased the full-benefits age from 65 to 67. That's much too little, and even an increase to age 75 would be a mild reform. Other reforms, up to and including abolition, should include means-testing pensions and totally defederalizing and decentralizing the program. But it's also easy to imagine the tidal wave of opposition from activists who vehemently oppose even a very mild reduction in Social Security payouts. Raising the age won't make Social Security just, prudent, or wise. But cutting federal spending is always the right thing to do.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Society
KEYWORDS: retirement; ryanmcmaken; socialsecurity
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To: SeekAndFind

You can go ahead and work as long as you want, leave the rest of us alone. My retirement age is 67 and I plan to do so. I very likely will have a retirement “career” but that will be my choice, not the governments.


21 posted on 01/29/2023 10:34:35 PM PST by Reno89519 (DeSantis or Anyone But Trump in 2024. Time for Trump to Retire, Spend Time With His Family.)
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To: 6thavenue; SeekAndFind
Since you posted this article, what’s your reply to my question: what companies are hiring people in their 70s?

Yes, this is a VERY SERIOUS QUESTION. I'm 63 and on the job market, IT professional, very good resume, but am being passed over very likely because of my age (and that I'm not an Indian). And it will only get worse. What, am I supposed to go from good income IT professional to compete for Walmart greeter?

22 posted on 01/29/2023 10:39:25 PM PST by Reno89519 (DeSantis or Anyone But Trump in 2024. Time for Trump to Retire, Spend Time With His Family.)
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To: 6thavenue

“Since you posted this article, what’s your reply to my question: what companies are hiring people in their 70s?”

The hardware stores are full of 70+ people. They’re the best employees there. Many departments store also hire older people.

There’s also this crazy thing you can do called working for yourself. I started doing that at 26. Retired at 60. Yet I still sort of work in my 70’s at real estate investing because it’s so much darn fun.


23 posted on 01/29/2023 10:50:54 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself. 111 is the key.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Get the illegals that the charity groups put on SS off SS, and stop the FAT disability for disability!


24 posted on 01/29/2023 10:51:57 PM PST by Herakles (Diversity is applied Marxism )
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To: SoConPubbie
...How about only allowing those that put money into the Social Security system to only pull out the same amount of money?...

1. What are you proposing to do about inflation? The money I paid into SS back in 1963 should have been invested and I should get a lot more out than I put in. Look up "the time value of money".

2. How about we only allow money paid into SS to be invested in the world total stock market? No picking political favorites, just a huge index fund.

Now if you want to limit that to just the US total stock market that is OK too, but total stock market has a lot of appeal. The thought of Euroweenies working their buns off to pay for my retirement warms my heart.

25 posted on 01/29/2023 11:27:18 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: SeekAndFind
Too long has a shrinking pool of workers been forced to fund pensioners who start collecting government benefits in their 60s and can now expect to be on the dole for 20 years or more.

This would be less of a problem if the American oligarchs invested broadly in technology expanding productivity of workers. Instead the US elite decided to send 50,000 factories to China from 2001 to about 2016. Letting productivity enhancing technological development take place in other parts of the world has a knock on effect in addition to disemploying the American working class.


26 posted on 01/29/2023 11:37:21 PM PST by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: 6thavenue

NOBODY or at least not many.

That is what was so absurd about that floriduh congressman from key west saying “People want to work longer” Not just absurd but stupid and tone deaf.

Hardly anyone wants to work until they are 75 and most people can’t.

My late Dad and I retired at 67, that was enough. He lasted 10 years and I hope to be able to go longer. I worked as long as I wanted to. Comes a time you no longer fit in when most of the people you work with are young enough to be your kids or younger.


27 posted on 01/29/2023 11:38:15 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: Sequoyah101

“Means testing” is bald face communism.


28 posted on 01/29/2023 11:42:49 PM PST by Graybeard58 (I stand behind Alec Baldwin!)
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To: SeekAndFind

At this rate just raise it to 100 so that no one alive will ever get to use their money.


29 posted on 01/29/2023 11:44:41 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I paid in, I want what’s owed to me.


30 posted on 01/30/2023 12:04:36 AM PST by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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To: 6thavenue

Presently, I would say at age 50....you might already have some problems in finding new employment, and at 60...more than 50-percent of companies will skip over you. This is a bogus discussion topic with politicians.


31 posted on 01/30/2023 12:33:15 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: SeekAndFind

So, forcibly extract all that money from working propkr and then postpone any pay back until after most of the victims die.

In short — slave labor.


32 posted on 01/30/2023 12:40:51 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: SeekAndFind

Government should incentivise use of tobacco, vaping, and hard drugs...


33 posted on 01/30/2023 1:02:47 AM PST by Does so (What distinguishes today's Russian aggression from that of the USSR?)
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To: Sequoyah101

I have a much better idea: Permanently eliminate at least half of state, local and federal government “jobs.” We’ll save tons of money by destroying that segment of the parasite class and also cut down mightily on the waste, fraud, laziness, stupidity and lawlessness it propagates throughout society.


34 posted on 01/30/2023 1:16:07 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, that’s all true, and I’m cool with the Mises thinkers,
but a deal is a deal, and a promise is a promise.


35 posted on 01/30/2023 1:24:55 AM PST by tsomer
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To: SeekAndFind

As we learned with covid, the average lifespan in the us is 73.


36 posted on 01/30/2023 2:07:35 AM PST by Pollard ( >>> The Great Reset is already underway! <<<)
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To: 6thavenue
Any company that tries to hire today's youth would quickly see the advantages of hiring a 60+ worker.

Young people, particularly college graduates, have less than nothing to offer. Not only do they have not just bad but downright awful attitudes, but they don't know anything and they don't want to learn.

It won't be a quick transition for a lot of companies, but there is a large potential market out there for older workers.

60+ workers have a huge amount of experience and their work ethic is beyond compare.

True unrecognized jewels in the American working world.

As an aside, I had a brief consulting assignment at a small company several years ago and we had a computer emergency one day. Time was of the essence. I asked a young man (about 23 y/o) standing nearby to run down to the supply room for something and I said, "you'll have to hustle."

He looked at me with disdain and said, "I don't hustle for anyone."

I don't know whatever happened to that young man but his future is dim. And given that he is representative of today's youth, I would say to those hoping to build a workforce of these types of workers, your future is equally dim unless you consider older workers with good old-fashioned work ethics.

37 posted on 01/30/2023 2:26:44 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: 6thavenue

Yup! Those were my first thoughts too.

Going to have to tackle that ‘age discrimination’ issue first.


38 posted on 01/30/2023 2:50:05 AM PST by EBH
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To: 6thavenue
What companies are hiring - as opposed to firing - people in their 60s and 70s?

I've read that some retirees are finding work at fast food chains or as Walmart greeters. Both those jobs pay minimum wage.

Of course, most retirees are not only old, they're white. Which makes it especially difficult for them to find decent jobs in corporate America.

39 posted on 01/30/2023 2:55:24 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: SeekAndFind
I've never taken welfare, food stamps, or even student loans. The only government "handout" I ever expected was SSI and Medicare.

But as I near eligibility, it seems they want to yank it away.

Many of America's "diverse youth" long to see "old, white folk" die off. Preferably in pain and poverty.

40 posted on 01/30/2023 2:59:03 AM PST by Angelino97
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