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Remembering Douglas MacArthur: Was He A Trump-like Flawed Genius?
https://freedom-demokrasi-and-civilised-humanity.com/ ^ | 26th January, 2023, American time | Ozguy1945

Posted on 01/26/2023 9:56:03 AM PST by Ozguy1945

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To: Responsibility2nd
Yet you do not point to what those errors are. Why is that?

One is: Douglas MacArthurs, should be Douglas MacArthur's

Two, I assume, is: modernised

Am I correct, Responsibility2nd, or did I miss another error and didn't notice it myself?

Modernize or modernise? Which one is correct? Modernize or modernise?? Similar with urbanization and urbanisation ?

Both spellings are correct. Speakers of US English only use the 'ize' version. British/Commonwealth English speakers use both 'ise' and 'ize'. The same goes for many verbs, such as realise/realize, recognise/recognize, and many others. It doesn't matter which convention you use, providing you are consistent.

So you stopped reading because of a missing ', along with his spelling of modernised due to his being an Australian.

21 posted on 01/26/2023 10:24:36 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Ozguy1945

MacArthur was a narcissist general and would have made a bad president unlike Eisenhower who was a humble man.


22 posted on 01/26/2023 10:25:14 AM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Ozguy1945

Extended the war in the Pacific by 6 to 9 months. Was incompetent but well connected politically. His one success was ruling post war Japan.
But as a General they wanted him nowhere near Europe. They wanted Nimitz to run the Pacific war but politically had to do something with him.

Peleliu and Tarawa were both launched to support MacArthur’s efforts plan for the Philippines.


23 posted on 01/26/2023 10:27:07 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: V_TWIN
Along with Deborah Birx. Like I said there are many more. 🙂

But I still stand strongly behind Trump because I know he is sincere about his love for this country, and he is a fighter. If he gets reelected, he should hire me to assist him him in weeding out his enemies pretending to be allies. 🤣

I'll bring you aboard too. 🙂

24 posted on 01/26/2023 10:29:28 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: chajin

My feelings exactly. Trump was more like Patton in my estimation.


25 posted on 01/26/2023 10:33:15 AM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: chajin

> My gut reaction is that Trump is more like Patton than MacArthur... <

Agreed. What saved Patton was that he (Patton) had someone to run interference for him, that someone being Eisenhower. Trump however does not have an Ike.

Moral of the story: Trump has to be more careful and more diplomatic than Patton had to be. I don’t think Trump has quite realized that yet.


26 posted on 01/26/2023 10:34:10 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Ozguy1945

He did that aged in his 60s with island hopping strategic brilliance.

(That was Nimitz...Mac was in his way)

In his 70’s he was again strategically brilliant with calculated risk at Incheon.

(That was the US Navy and Marines... though the pop culture iconography was that they were not behind it and it was the genius of MacArthur alone who taught the USMC and Navy about amphibious attack)

And he was openly insubordinate to President Truman.

Last, that lunatic also defied the direct orders of President Hoover and attacked and burned the WWI bonus marchers camp. He had cavalry attack them and beat them with the backs of their swords.

MacArthur should have been left for capture on Corregidor.

And his defense of the Philippines was utterly incompetent. he surrendered to a Jap force a third his size after that incompetent defense.


27 posted on 01/26/2023 10:34:11 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Robert DeLong

Yet you do not point to what those errors are. Why is that?

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My apologies Robert. I assumed anyone with better than elementary school reading levels know you do not start an article out by saying; “Its is…”

And then “Wrest Point”. Is that also how it’s spelled in Australia? I think not.


28 posted on 01/26/2023 10:36:07 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Donald Trump is a setting sun. Ron DeSantis is a rising star.)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
So he did not come back and win?

You’d rather a glorious last stand and lose versus a tactical retreat to win later? No strategy; just blunder in and fight until exhausted?

As for the supposed “insubordination”, that’s garbage.
… (T)here are five essentials for victory:
  1. He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.
  2. He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces.
  3. He will win whose army is animated by the same spirit throughout all its ranks.
  4. He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.
  5. He will win who has military capacity and is not interfered with by the sovereign. …
— The Art of War, III:17

There are roads which must not be followed, armies which must be not attacked, towns which must be besieged, positions which must not be contested, (and) commands of the sovereign which must not be obeyed. …

— IBID., VIII:3
Obviously MacArthur wanted to win; however, Truman evidently wanted to keep the communist Second World going with all its evil, deadly depredations.

Opus?
29 posted on 01/26/2023 10:36:34 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: chajin

And defeating Japan quicker would have slowed the Soviets advance in Manchuria and likely would have impeded Mao. MacArthur’s incompetence likely was a cause of the Korean war by dragging it out long enough for the USSR to grab half of Korea!


30 posted on 01/26/2023 10:37:21 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Ozguy1945

He was wrong on December 7th when he didn’t prepare the Army Air Force in the Philippines for a possible attack, and wrong about taking the Korean War so far north that China intervened, but he was a great general and a great American. He was incredibly right about Vietnam when the Best and the Brightest were so terribly wrong.


31 posted on 01/26/2023 10:37:43 AM PST by x
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To: Ozguy1945

Mac never did much for anyone but Mac.

He was a good general who thought he was an emperor.

He considered Ike a good clerk. That kind of sums up his arrogance.


32 posted on 01/26/2023 10:42:01 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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You left out the time he led the troops against the bonus camps. That was cool.


33 posted on 01/26/2023 10:43:39 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Hardastarboard

Macarthur was DAMN lucky at Inchon.
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Luck is the residue of design!


34 posted on 01/26/2023 10:45:00 AM PST by V V Camp Enari 67-68 ( This clears up a lot of misconceptions.)
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To: Leaning Right

That “saved” Patton? Not the other way around?


35 posted on 01/26/2023 10:46:01 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: DesertRhino

Speculation.


36 posted on 01/26/2023 10:46:19 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: dfwgator

You mean imposing abortion on them?


37 posted on 01/26/2023 10:51:32 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Ozguy1945

We should have nuked China when he wanted to.


38 posted on 01/26/2023 10:51:46 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Ozguy1945

He was a traitor and hated veterans.


39 posted on 01/26/2023 10:52:29 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Robert DeLong

How do you know he’s forgiving. Please apply Occam’s Razor.


40 posted on 01/26/2023 10:53:53 AM PST by nickcarraway
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