Posted on 01/15/2023 6:37:23 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
I am bumping this post to the top of the page and updating because, well, I’ll explain.
First, thank you. Sincere and genuine thankfulness for your fellowship. Visitors to this site continue to prove that our nation is created by, and an assembly of, the most decent, honest, generous and kind-hearted people in the world. The responses to the question of ‘why didn’t you take the covid-19 shot?’ are nothing short of remarkable.
In the bigger picture if you want to fill up your faith cup and recognize the scale of commonsense assembly in our nation, take the time to read through the 2,000+ responses.
The feedback you are providing is exceptional and trust me when I say that far more people are reading these responses than you could fathom. Additionally, the responses have reasserted my belief in the scale of our national assembly. There are far more of us, ordinary, hardworking, commonsense, pragmatic and smart people, than the self-described intellectual elites would ever admit.
In addition to the responses below, there have been hundreds of emails answering the question, which suddenly made me realize that no one has really ever asked this question before in a format that provides ordinary people with the ability to respond.
There is also a yearning to talk about this issue, publicly and with deliberation; massively so. And I am hopeful (insert grin here) this small corner of the internet is about to push this conversation into a much larger national forum. Our nation needs a big conversation about this.
If I had to pick a single phrase to encapsulate the myriad of phenomenal responses to the question I would use the phrase, “intellectual discernment”; which again provides buckets of faith that a large number of people are wide awake, albeit part of what I call a potato revolution growing safely underground.
Also, unbeknownst to front page readers I am stunned at the people in/around operation warp-speed, these are people in government directly attached to the issue, who have contacted CTH on the backside, stepped forward and said they also didn’t take the shot because, well, despite their belief in the purpose and principle at the time, things were just not adding up and ultimately seemed sketchy. They couldn’t talk (so they felt), couldn’t even hint at their concern; but when it came to making the personal decision, they waited.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
Lastly, and more obliquely, the datapoint of one of my heroes Franklin Graham assembling a NY field hospital to serve over 20,000 patients; another massive endeavor that sat empty and without use. However, prior to the hindsight, it was the in-real-time fight from officials in/around the area who tried to block Samaritans Purse from setting up the facility. If the SARS-CoV-2 issue was as great a threat as declared, then why would anyone fight to keep out a field hospital that could provide such relief. It just didn’t make sense.
Those issues, and others, formed the baseline of my inability to reconcile the key issue of ‘trust’ needed to believe in the vaccine. Additionally, I am healthy and not within any of the risk factors. However, I also feel strongly that each health decision is unique to the individual person, and everyone was making the best decisions for them based on the available information at the time; so, I carry no judgement for those who made a different choice.
As noted, I am bumping this to the top of the site so that our conversation can continue. Normally I would start a new thread, but this one is different. I don’t want to break the continuity and I want to provide everyone the ability to see they are not alone.
Love to all,
Sundance
Reader feedback request. I was quite shocked to review a poll I took on the Twitter last month showing that 85% of the people who follow the CTH Twitter account [TLR2] did not take the COVID-19 jab.
Without any judgement implied or inferred I am genuinely curious, why not?
With the situation clearly in hindsight, and/or given all the pressure that may have been applied to each individual situation, I am genuinely curious what was it that made you choose not to take the COVID-19 vaccination.
If you are comfortable, and please understand that no pressure is intended in any way whatsoever, could you share why you didn’t take the vaccine and how do you feel about that decision in hindsight?
If you did take the vaccination, there is also no judgement in this question. As I said back in 2021 each individual is unique, each situation is unique, and each person has to make the best decision about what is in their individual best interests. So please, don’t let this issue divide our conversation.
I am genuinely curious as to the reason so many people would withstand the public and perhaps peer pressure to follow the ‘vaccination’ advice. Also, how has that decision impacted your life? Did you lose friends and family over your personal health decision? Did those relationships heal over time? Or anything else you might find pertinent to the general question.
When Tom Hanks offered his blood for research or to help make a vaccine and they said ,no way , I went Hmmmm what are they up to
Gee, in some ways I wonder if they’ll take all those reasons and create a narrative to coerce and convince you next time?
Maybe just maybe, we shouldn’t be broadcasting these into the great internet hive and AI.
Just a random thought...ya’ know.
A big NO to mandated jabs.
1)It killed my mom. 2)The government tried too hard to force it. That was a clue it wasn’t a good thing.
It killed my mom, but I wasn’t going to do it anyway. Tried to dissuade her, but to no avail.
#1 Because of the replicability of drug trials over the last 30 years is under 30%.
#2 Because hiring at large pharma companies has been done with melanin and bedroom practice far outweighs any skill set.
#3 A safe and effective vaccine cannot be developed in months. Bioweapons sure can be.
#4 I didn’t have much faith in the media, medical establishment, or the government to start with.
Well, I’m not about to plow through thousands of comments. For us (my wife and me), it originally came down to the fact that we were not at exceedingly high risk, so we decided to wait a while. Then the government started the insanely intense push for vaccination, which made us suspicious. Any really good idea doesn’t need to be forced on the entire population.
Still haven’t caught COVID as far as we know, and our daily lives and personal friendships really haven’t been affected all that much.
Exactly.
I smoked for many years and never had a Dr. push me to quit as hard as the ones telling me to get the jab.
Then, when I asked about side effects and long term impact, I got used car salesman tactics that increased my skepticism.
The seeing a number of co-workers, who took the jab, come down with moderate and serious conditions, I was glad of my decisions.
Thanks for posting! Lots of great comments at Treehouse if you have some ‘down time’ available...
A dear friend lost her baby. My son lost friends and work. I will never forgive or forget.
Haven’t had the flu since 1969 (Hong Kong Flu almost killed me), never get colds or sick, the virus had an over 99.9% chance of survival.
Why would I take an Experimental Drug being pushed by Known frauds and liars for a virus I am immune from already?
I was associated in attempts to make vaccines against Coronaviruses and experienced the failure to do so because of the propensity of the virus to mutate rapidly. Even though they made a case for the mRNA circumventing the virus’s ability to mutate and evade protection, I was still skeptical because of my experience. In the Summer of 2021 I contracted the Wuhan virus from a 92 year old lady that had received three of the mRNA injections opening my eyes that the virus was replicating pathogenic forms in mRNA injected individuals confirming my suspicions. Since I became ill and recovered I also knew that natural immunity was far superior to injection immunity and was tested for immunity and it was off the scale. The mRNA producing pharmaceutical companies avoided the checks and balances that are necessary to produce a fairly safe injection and the injected population is now seeing the folly of injecting people with poorly researched mRNA. I won’t take the mRNA as we are now seeing that the mRNA creates metastasis in those with cancer and problems with those with immunological deficiencies. The poor Orthomyxo virus vaccines have a better track record than does this mRNA injection.
My daughter and SIL both took it. Both got Covid after the 4th booster.
My husband and I didn’t take the vax and, as far as we know, neither of us have had it even after being exposed to them.
My mom was one of the first allowed to take it because she was in her 80’s. She had a minor stroke after the first one. She slightly recovered from that one and had a worse stroke after the second shot. She passed shortly after that one. Yes, she was old, but had never had a stroke.
I liked the “no long-term testing” comment...... well it has gone under 2 year, long-term two year testing. Unfortunately the participates were unaware that they were subjects of the test!
Because I refuse to be part of the test group for medical experiments that have potentially irreversible consequences.
I’ll take my chances with the virus. On the other hand, if it’s Ebola, black plague, etc... something with almost total lethality, maybe I’d risk a shot.
It was more than disturbing these Dr.s could not speak openly out of fear of either loosing their jobs or/and the Biden administrations mad push to get the shot if they opposed it could jeopardize any gov. funding they might have.
Later we see that all they warned about was then beginning to get out to the public as other Dr.s etc. around the country were sharing their findings with each other - yet still the public was not informed.
To this day I will not get the shots. I have not had a cold or flu or covid. But those I know who have had the shot have had one or all of these.
I also owe it to you to answer the question of my own status, which is a big heck no – I did not take the jab.
Why? Because in the preceding years of all my research into the rapidly exposed corruption of our government, there was just no way in hell I was going to trust that same system. A system that literally was working outside the constitution and legal framework of our nation to destroy a sitting U.S. President is going to suddenly care about my health. Nope, it did not align. I also looked at the datapoint of the U.S.S. Comfort delivered to New York City under the grandest of media proclamations about impending medical doom, only to see the ship sit empty and completely unused despite the scale of the narrative that surround its purpose.
⬆️ THIS ⬆️
Could’ve been written by me....my sentiments, exactly.
Pinging a few.
“A safe and effective vaccine cannot be developed in months.”
That was the bottom line for me. There was a lot of waving of arms, pounding the table, and name calling—but none of that can replace years of careful scientific study of the safety of vaccines.
We still have no clue of the long term side effects for different types of people.
I was anti-vaxx before Covid as it related to the flu vaccine.
My wife got it every year and I did not—and she got the flu more often than I did.
“...if it’s Ebola, black plague, etc... something with almost total lethality, maybe I’d risk a shot...”
Bite your tongue. You will give the gov’t ideas!🥺
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