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The author criticizes lecturing, but I disagree, for reasons given at http://medicalhypotheses.blogspot.com/2007/07/lectures-highly-effective-teaching.html.
1 posted on 12/09/2022 8:12:39 AM PST by karpov
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Times have changed haven’t they?

I had some teachers in college I really did not like. Some were hard on us, and all of us in college at the time spent a lot of time commiserating with each other about how tough some of the teachers were.

But we did the best we could.

None of us decades ago ever felt entitled to get an A.

I guess I just don’t understand the entitlement mentality.


2 posted on 12/09/2022 8:16:36 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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Classes like this were known weedout courses in tough STEM disciplines in my day. They were there for a reason. Not everyone is cut out by intelligence and work ethic to handle a real STEM curriculum.

Of course, we *used* to believe in the concept of Meritocracy in this country.


3 posted on 12/09/2022 8:16:40 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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The solution to a declining and decaying culture is to lower academic standards to satisfy the snowflake whiners. Right?


4 posted on 12/09/2022 8:16:50 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If you're not part of the solution, you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker!)
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Organic Chemistry is typically a ‘weed-out’ class, and if you don’t pass it, you should be thankful, because you’re likely not cut out for the classes that follow.


5 posted on 12/09/2022 8:18:06 AM PST by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 24 degrees)
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Growing up, we learned very early in life that blaming the teacher for a failing grade was not acceptable in my house. The lesson was expanded to include not blaming others for our personal failures. A generality, for sure, but most always a good lesson to learn.


6 posted on 12/09/2022 8:20:32 AM PST by glennaro (Never give up ... never give in ... never surrender ... and enjoy every minute of doing so.)
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7 posted on 12/09/2022 8:23:31 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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The was this calculus professor at the college where I went who, one semester, decided that the highest grade he’d be giving would be a C. And so that’s what happened. If you had the highest score in the class, you got a C.

That class wasn’t full of slackers. There were pre-meds, engineering majors, physics majors, etc. So yeah, there are lazy students. But there are also unrealistic professors.

And a side note, I taught college freshman physics for awhile. If only a few of my students were able to score well on a concept, I’d suspect poor study habits in their part. But I’d also wonder if I could have explained things better.


10 posted on 12/09/2022 8:36:34 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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tooo hard??? switch to marketing...


13 posted on 12/09/2022 8:54:54 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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I had a college class in the early 70s on decision making processes that focused on the Cuban Missle Crisis. A very interesting class taught by a professor who was an ex-CIA officer.

However, a large portion of the class screwed around and didn’t do well on the first of three exams. The professor threatened to drop the highest test grade and base grades on the two lowest scores if test results didn’t improve. It didn’t really make a difference for those paying attention and studying, but it sure woke up the laggards and got them motivated to do better.


14 posted on 12/09/2022 8:57:23 AM PST by Roadrunner383
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Here’s to H. Nelson the thermodynamics prof who’s class was known to have absolute zero in it


15 posted on 12/09/2022 8:59:24 AM PST by Nifster (OI see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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What is the purpose of a school?

What is the purpose of an education?

The whole field needs examination.


18 posted on 12/09/2022 9:20:58 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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If a student wants to learn they will one way or another it’s why people like Tesla Ford Edison passed the others.


21 posted on 12/09/2022 9:39:11 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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Explain-These-Bad-Grades
23 posted on 12/09/2022 10:15:06 AM PST by SkyDancer (I Walk In The Rain So Nobody Can See My Tears)
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No one should ever fail.


26 posted on 12/09/2022 1:47:44 PM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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Most likely the students, although I have had my share of profs who are the cause.


27 posted on 12/09/2022 2:16:51 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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Orgo is memory intensive but it’s not that complicated


28 posted on 12/09/2022 4:38:26 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Keep in mind the majority of “professors” at colleges are they because they publish and bring money and/or notoriety to the school.

I had two professors who had both been with the State Dept. One was to India. No wonder India didn't like us back in the day. Watching paint dry was more exciting than his class.

The other guy wasn't too bad. Except you could tell he had been in the ivory tower tooooooo long.

29 posted on 12/09/2022 5:45:24 PM PST by ealgeone
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Hold colleges accountable, and they will be a little more selective about admissions.


30 posted on 12/10/2022 1:21:52 AM PST by Mr. Blond
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