Posted on 10/01/2022 5:33:36 AM PDT by PK1991
Bottom Line: Cross-national EU/Davos/UN globalist faction blew up the pipeline. "If you look at this dispassionately, you know who and that’s why you know who ordered it, regardless of whose military operators put the bombs on the pipes."
"I can’t stress enough folks that we are in very perilous waters here. I’m no US apologist. This country has crimes it will have to answer for. And the biggest one may be allowing this globalist assholes to corrupt it nearly beyond repair. But don’t let that blind you to what’s really happening.
The important thing I keep trying to point out that thinking in terms of ‘country’ is ultimately the wrong lens to view these people’s actions. Factions are the better lens. Factions cross political borders.
Only when we’re talking about the people and elections do countries matter here and how they interact with these factions."
"Make no mistake, I’m not about to absolve ‘The US’ of any malfeasance here. Some aspect of ‘The US’ was involved. To think otherwise is also terminally naïve."
"Davos is obsessed with preserving the EU and transferring that power to the UN for global government through the end of commercial banking and total surveillance. This is incontrovertibly true. Their pushing hard for CBDCs to replace the current monetary system. Getting the neocons to over-react to the current state of play in Ukraine by blowing up two vital pipelines to Europe is child’s play. You are goading them to do what they want to do anyway. Screw Germany and Russia simultaneously. Again, think Pit Bull and squealing bunny rabbit. But the real win for them isn’t giving Germany no way to back down wrt Russia. It is to get Germany to see themselves as a victim of US colonialism. Cue the RAND report. And the protests over energy costs in Germany over the weekend. This leads to a critical mass of people seeing the US as the world’s leading cancer, deflecting from the real perps." "In the short run, the neocons think they’ve won a big victory. In the long run, it seals Europe’s fate by crashing their markets so they can blame Russia and the US for their bankruptcy while defaulting and consolidating power in Brussels. Blowing up NS1 and NS2 is a brilliant tactical move, it takes options from Putin and leaves him with more military than economic options. Why does anyone think the EU and Davos don’t benefit from this since this is what they actually wanted, prolonged war with Russia. Or am I misreading EU Commission President Ursula Von der Leyen, EU Foreign Minister Josep Borrell and NATO Sec. General Jens Stoltenberg?" "Europe’s only solution [to their financial and debt collapse], said many times by Soros, is to default by issuing perpetual debt, consols, and rolling up all the political power in Europe to the EU Commission and the ECB. To do that you NEED a collapse of the German middle class. With the ECB losing to the Fed over keeping rates low and going for MMT, 80% of the ECB’s balance sheet is at risk. The EU cannot function with a bankrupt ECB. The eurozone ceases to exist. President Lagarde is now losing control over internal bond spreads now that the BoE intervened. But you also need a scapegoat to focus German anger on otherwise you lose them. So, bring in the hyper-aggressive Yanks and the hated Russians. Perfect patsies for this operation. Turn Western Europe as anti-American as Eastern Europe is anti-Russian. The neocons have walked willingly into this trap. Russia was given the option surrender or fight. They chose to fight."
The act of vandalizing a major piece of physical infrastructure, targeting civilian populations, isn’t unprecedented in history, but it does signal that everything we thought we knew about the rules of the current game was wrong. An entity overturned the game board this week because they were losing and EU/DAVOS cross international faction is the likely culprit.
The EU is in trouble.
If Italy, Hungary and Poland decide to walk out.
Seems like a lot of the old cyberpunk novels hint at some sort of global collapse caused by rogue factions messing everything up. Then the world sinks into a dystopia where outlaws with cutting edge technology play in the anarchy while most people have miserable lives.
Radical left wing eco-terrorists.
Hanlon’s Razor basically is never attribute to malice what can better be explained by stupidity.
This fellow theorizes that the pipelines ruptured due to shoddy russian maintenance and because of the formation of methane hydrate plugs that developed because the pipelines were filled with natural gas but there was no flow throughput.
https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/09/nordstream.html
Don’t know if it’s a valid argument because I’m not a pipeline engineer. But I think it’s worthy of consideration.
Yup yup and yup. Our country is on the wrong side.
Cui Bono....... Who benefits?
The Gulf States with lots of gas to sell
And quite possibly Turkeye.
In any investigation, it is important to learn exactly what was blown up, how it was blown up, the extent of the damage, who gains, who loses, did the perpetrator leave it in such a way as that it can be repaired easily, or is it damaged beyond repair and a new pipeline would need to be constructed. If you answer those questions, you might be able to prove who damaged it and why.
Why now when Russia had turned off the pipe and Europe was looking for other options. The middle east already was gaining and would more so over time. They had no need to blow up the pipe and if they did why not do it years ago. Plus have you been around the militaries in the middle east? You think they could pull this off alone?
I am thinking I read yesterday that there were 3 breaches (explosions?) at the same time. That seems sort of doubtful it would have been a coincidence, more like a planned event.
[...shoddy russian maintenance...]
That has been my theory; crappy russian pipeline. Just like their crappy nuclear reactor at Chernobyl.
My second theory is that the russians blew it up in an attempt to damage the new Norwegian pipeline that over it.
I of course don’t know.
However, valves that are turned off can be turned back on. Pipelines that are severely damaged and owned by Russia that lacks the ability to repair the damage can’t be turned back on. Further, once the existing pressure is dissapated, water sea water will enter the pipe and cause who knows how much unrepairable damage?
The pipeline sabotage puts a lot of the Russian gas supply business to Europe at an end
So, The Arabs can benefit. They have a severe grudge against Russia who occupying Syria effectively prohibited pipelines through Syria and the Med. Russia used the military to do business. It is not a great leap to think the Arabs might get revenge militarily. Tit for military tat
No it’s not a valid argument, it’s a joke of an excuse. There’s no question that the US was behind the destruction of these pipelines, you’d have to be a fool to believe otherwise.
Especially since Biden explicitly promised that this is exactly what we do.
“Radical left wing eco-terrorists.”
Where would they get the resources? What about the NATO warships that were holding exercsies near the pipeline?
That would not explain how there were multiple, nearly simultaneous explosions on two separate pipelines. And the pipelines were steel pipe encased in concrete - takes some serious explosive power to rupture that. Plus, John Brennan has already blamed Russia, and he’s always wrong. This IMO was a U.S. action to prolong the war.
UN/WHO/NATO/WEF = NWO or so they hope.
WEF 2030 Vision
UN 2030 Agenda
NATO 2030 (yes, it’s a thing)
WEF Young Global Leaders
NATO Young Leaders (yes, also a thing)
This is NOT your dad’s NATO.
But some countries aren’t all that thrilled about this NWO so we have BRICS. Russia vetoed the UN resolution against them for the annexation. Brazil, China and India abstained from voting. Quite a few other countries are interested in joining BRICS, including Iran, Turkey and Mexico.
Interesting times.
“Turn Western Europe as anti-American as Eastern Europe is anti-Russian.”
This will ultimately be the result. It was one thing for the US to warn Europe not to become overly dependent on Russian energy, but to take it upon ourselves to literally blow up those pipelines was way beyond the pale. As Europe heads into an economic depression this winter and the people unable to afford to heat their homes, how do you think they will come to view this US action?
This was such a mind numbingly stupid move I just can’t believe these sociopathic Neocons had the nerve to not only do it, but think they could get away with it without negative repercussions. Now they are trying to blame Russia for this, do they actually think people are this stupid?
Who is this Luongo clown?
“This country has crimes it will have to answer for.”
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