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Ukraine's Offensive Continues, Russia Shows No Sign of Being Able to Stop It, Intriguing Rumors Abound
Red State ^ | 09/11/2022 | Streiff

Posted on 09/11/2022 8:26:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Saturday, I posted on the new Ukrainian offensive in Kharkiv Oblast that has liberated several hundred square miles of territory and threatens to unravel the entire Russian invasion; see Russia’s Disaster in Kharkiv Turns Into an Avalanche of Failure as Ukraine’s Army Advances Without Opposition.

The main effort in yesterday’s report was Kupiansk, a critical rail and highway node on the Oskil river. That city is firmly in Ukrainian hands. As I noted yesterday, this places the main railroad line from Russian forces in Ukraine to Russia within range of Ukrainian tube artillery.

The Ukrainian offensive in Kharkiv Oblast shows some signs of slowing down, unlike the Russian withdrawal.

Russian Army currently experiencing in Ukraine its "2015 Idlib moment", when SAA was routed in Idlib & lost entire province.
Russia then launched its military intervention in Syria to prevent Assad's collapse.
Watch until the end👇 pic.twitter.com/xswdMqZa9V

— QalaatM (@QalaatM) September 10, 2022

Luhansk Region Surroundings of Starobilsk. The Russians are fleeing towards Luhansk.#RussianArmy pic.twitter.com/wp8IKwTBIL

— NO WAR! (@Milan8662) September 11, 2022

Huge Russian column fleeing near Oskol River, Kharkiv Oblast after a major successful Ukrainian counteroffensive. pic.twitter.com/2QbSVMuwS9

— CaucasusWarReport (@Caucasuswar) September 11, 2022

Video of combat between Ukrainian and Russian soldiers.

The Ukrainian soldier filming says “oh how many of them have I killed today”. pic.twitter.com/oskqaTou5o

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 11, 2022

But progress continues. I’d thought the Oskil River/reservoir running south from Kupiansk might mark a line of advance for this phase of the operation. New reports indicate the Ukrainians have vaulted the Oskil River and are in hot pursuit of the fleeing Russians with the possibility of re-conquering the fake Luhansk People’s Republic created by the Russians in 2014.

🔥🔥Confirmed

🇷🇺 forces are fleeing Svatove

– General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reports.


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— NOËL (@Noel_dotsol) September 11, 2022

Ukraine being able to bounce the recapture of occupied Northern Luhansk from the march is looking more likely.🤔


https://t.co/IDwhXPNctl

— Trent Telenko (@TrentTelenko) September 11, 2022

In the north, Ukraine has successfully reestablished control of all of its territory up to its border with Russia.

In my post yesterday, I mentioned that the Russian military in the town of Vovchansk had announced it was withdrawing. There are credible reports that the opposing armies negotiated the evacuation of Vovchansk and neighboring towns. According to the ISW/Critical Threats interactive map, this is what the frontline looks like today.

The Kharkiv front. Ukraine has reestablished control of most of its territory on the border with Russia.


Via @criticalthreats and @TheStudyofWar https://t.co/5pKWZaUiVK pic.twitter.com/sLGDGlQMcC

— streiff (@streiffredstate) September 11, 2022

The Ukrainians have not advanced on the border crossing point between Pisky (UKR) and Logachevka (RUS), which is basically where the rightmost part of the blue-shaded area touches the Russian border. My guess is that they have no interest in stopping the flight of pro-Russian residents. It also looks like the Russians aren’t crazy about admitting them.

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Queues at the Logachevka checkpoint from those wishing to leave the Kharkov region for Russia. pic.twitter.com/A7rdyR9cPM

— marina alikantes (@Marianna9110) September 10, 2022

Russian volunteers are reporting a queue of around 500 cars formed on the way from Kupiansk to the Belgorod Region. A line of refugees formed on the way to the checkpoint in Logachevka.

"There are over 400-500 cars in the queue and around 200 people on foot." pic.twitter.com/hGjBPocDMP

— JAMnews (@JAMnewsCaucasus) September 10, 2022

Video at the broder town of Logachevka with pro-RU civilians/refugees setting up camps with what looks like 🇷🇺 EMERCOM assitance. https://t.co/oREg0xseoO

— Evergreen Intel (@vcdgf555) September 11, 2022

 

There are mixed calls on the town of Lyman; see my report from yesterday for the location; my assessment is that the calls of “contested’ are overly conservative. I think Lyman has fallen, but I also understand the imperative of being right on calls for Ukrainian advances.

The Donetsk front had some action. Indications are that the quality of Russian forces working there may be of higher quality than those routed over the last week. A Ukrainian mechanized platoon attempted a hasty attack without artillery support about 12 miles northwest of the city of Donetsk and got mauled for their efforts, losing two T-72 tanks.

Ukraine lost 2 tanks in an attack on Pisky.

It’s all here on video, tanks, infantry and Russian artillery strikes.

If drones with cameras would have been around during WW2, this is what they would have recorded. pic.twitter.com/LGub2iPO3b

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 11, 2022

The Kherson offensive continues to grind out a few kilometers daily, despite what Putin’s mouthpieces say.

Zelensky’s counterattack on Kherson and Nikolaev has been a complete disaster. Total defeat for the Ukrainian side.

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) August 29, 2022

The Russians have voluntarily withdrawn some distance on the western side of this sector; the assumption is that they are bringing their troops within supporting range of artillery on the south side of the Dnieper River.

In Kherson region Russian army withdraw from some positions, – General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukrainehttps://t.co/DYCKqvQvHk

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— Liveuamap (@Liveuamap) September 11, 2022

That could be, and it could also be that the Russians are withdrawing across the Dnieper—remember, all the bridges across that river are destroyed, and the only way to cross is by pontoon raft—and this requires shortening defensive lines. As much as giving up Kherson would be embarrassing, evacuating that city and everything north of the river would be a very astute operational move. Russia moved about 20,000 troops from Kharkiv and Donetsk across the Dnieper to confront the much-ballyhooed offensive. I’m pretty sure they’d like them back.

An intriguing story is bouncing around that the Russians and Ukrainians are negotiating the evacuation of Kherson.

“According to our information, from the evening of September 9, the command of the Russian Armed Forces grouping in the Kherson region began to negotiate with the command ‘South’ of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on leaving the occupied…” — 😼👇https://t.co/wfKZbCaE9t

— Garuda 🇪🇺🇨🇵🇺🇦 (@Simorgh_Blue) September 11, 2022

That could explain the relative passivity of the Kherson front and the slow compression of Russian lines. The Ukrainians might very well calculate that liberating Ukrainian territory, including Kherson City, without a fight might be worth the cost of letting 20,000 Russian troops pass through a “humanitarian corridor.”

There are major politico-military issues brewing.

If Ukraine, as seems inevitable, moves into the territory claimed by the Potemkin republics created by Russia in 2014, then the character of the war changes dramatically on the ground. In that case, the ground war objectives would come more congruent with the stated position of the Ukrainian government that they intend to reclaim Luhansk and Donetsk. It also means the “Special Military Operation” fiction maintained by the Kremlin is no longer viable.

While Russia was unable to carry out a single missile attack or airstrike on the Ukrainian offensive in Kherson, they have continued to carry out what can only be called terror attacks on civilian targets far removed from the battlefield. The city of Kharkiv is hit daily by rocket attacks from across the Russian border. I believe Ukraine has been constrained in its ability to retaliate because I’ve been told that one of the terms of receiving HIMARS and MLRS was that they would not hit targets inside Russia. The new northern border places Belgorod and other cities within the 30-mile range of the 203mm 2S7 “Pion” self-propelled guns operated by Ukraine. Any agreement with a Western nation does not govern these weapons. It is difficult to see how the Ukrainian government continues to allow attacks from Russia without retaliation.

The successful offensive makes it less likely that Ukraine will be interested in negotiating. As a result, president Zelensky’s hard line (Ukraine President Zelensky Sets His Terms to End Russia’s Aggression in Ukraine and Vladimir Putin Isn’t Laughing) got a lot harder.

Zelensky to Russia, tonight…


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— Christo Grozev (@christogrozev) September 11, 2022

Ukraine showing that it can wage a successful offensive campaign makes it much more likely that modern tanks and aircraft may be on the way.

The U.S. is now thinking about supplying Ukraine with Western tanks and IFVs.

This would be a crucial step that would strongly contribute to Ukraine winning the war.


🇺🇸🇺🇦 pic.twitter.com/uRZl4CdH8i

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 12, 2022

The next week promises to be just as exciting as this one.



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1 posted on 09/11/2022 8:26:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
https://sonar21.com/knowing-what-we-know-knowing-what-we-dont-know-and-knowing-the-difference/

he Ukrainians and NATO know that most of the ground war is being fought by Donbas militias, but do not want to inform the public of that because it undercuts their propaganda campaign to make this “invasion” all about Russia.

We also know that Russia is much better at deception than Ukraine and NATO. Ukraine did nothing to hide its intent to launch an attack in the Kherson region and also signaled it would attack around Kharkov. Russia? Helped the Donbas militias reinforce their forces around Kherson (and successfully beat back the Ukrainian attack causing massive Ukrainian losses). Russia also leaked information that it was sending huge armor and artillery reinforcements towards Kherson as that offensive got underway when, in reality, it organized a tactical withdrawal from the region and redeployed forces south to Donetsk.

There is one more salient fact–the Ukrainian offensive around Kharkov took place without any meaningful support from Ukrainian combat air or artillery. Why is that important? That means the Russian air force–both fixed wing and rotary wing–is unscathed and intact. Russian armor and artillery systems also were not destroyed. If they ain’t destroyed they can still fight and the Ukrainian troops do not have a large reserve of armor and artillery to protect them.

Ukraine and the western media blithely ignore this fact and are celebrating the limited Ukrainian advance as if it were the reincarnation of the Nazi blitzkrieg into France.

One final fact to take into account. Ukraine has incurred horrendous casualties over the last two and a half weeks of combat. Russia and the militias have far fewer losses. Russia has not tapped into its trained military reserve. Ukraine has no trained military reserve left. So, for all of you arm chair generals out there second guessing Russia’s command decisions, please explain how Ukraine comes out on top? I look forward to your answers.

2 posted on 09/11/2022 8:36:51 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: SeekAndFind

[1943]

“Zhukov countered that the Germans would be drawn into a trap where their armoured power would be destroyed, thus creating the conditions for a major Soviet counteroffensive”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk


3 posted on 09/11/2022 8:42:22 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

The Ukrainians are advancing in areas across a river.

If the Russians take out the bridges, the Ukrainian troops may have their supply lines cut.

The Russians seem to be giving up territory too easily.


4 posted on 09/11/2022 8:43:25 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Kazan

The Russians are short on manpower and I’m beginning to think their military commanders aren’t very good.

But I do believe the Ukrainians are exposing themselves.

Previously, the Russians had to shell without accurate targeting information.


5 posted on 09/11/2022 8:48:07 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Kazan

The winning army is always the army retreating in disarray. 🙄. Just like their disastrous rout north of Kiev, the Russian military is conclusively demonstrating how poorly prepared and led it is. The only real question is when Putin will “resign” for health reasons. In the meantime, his military has played all its cards…poorly.


6 posted on 09/11/2022 8:48:53 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Brian Griffin
If the Russians take out the bridges, the Ukrainian troops may have their supply lines cut.

Ukrainians have already crossed the river because it is shallow during this part of the year. People and vehicles have no trouble crossing it at any point, so it is not a defensive barrier for the Russkies.

The Russians seem to be giving up territory too easily.

Russian BS about this being a genius trap can be disproven just by one look at the massive amounts of ammo and heavy hardware being left behind. The Ukrainians have even recovered some of Russia's most advanced tanks, apparently abandoned because they were too slow.

7 posted on 09/11/2022 8:49:24 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Kazan

You wish!
Trying to put the Putin’s spin on these developments.
Face it, your side is loosing!
Slava Ukraine!


8 posted on 09/11/2022 9:00:26 PM PDT by AZJeep
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To: AZJeep

SlobberUkraine? LOL


9 posted on 09/11/2022 9:02:20 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/24/putins-speech-declaring-war-on-ukraine-translated-excerpts


10 posted on 09/11/2022 9:04:14 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.aljazeera.com/tag/ukraine-russia-crisis/


11 posted on 09/11/2022 9:06:10 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/11/russia-ukraine-war-list-of-key-events-day-200


12 posted on 09/11/2022 9:08:33 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Rokke

For months, Izyum was the planed base of the major Russian offensive, which should encircle and destroy the whole Ukrainian army in the East Ukraine.
At least all the trolls were feeding us this.
Somehow, that offensive never materialized.
Now, Russians lost Izyum.
But all that is the part of the genial Russian strategy!?
It is really hard to be Russian troll lately!😢


13 posted on 09/11/2022 9:13:29 PM PDT by AZJeep
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-11


14 posted on 09/11/2022 9:15:25 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin
Here are the Key Takeaways from the website you provied:

Key Takeaways



15 posted on 09/11/2022 9:17:59 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Kazan

Nice work

Note half of Ukraine is now without power

Just like that

Limited war just got less limited


16 posted on 09/11/2022 9:19:54 PM PDT by wardaddy (If you are squishy about what’s going on you’re damn weak The water is still and on the wrong forums)
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To: Kazan

“Russia has not tapped into its trained military reserve.”

That is a bald faced lie.


17 posted on 09/11/2022 9:25:20 PM PDT by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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To: Brian Griffin

What satellite/spyplane/electronic listening intelligence could 2022 America and NATO give to 1943 Germans so that they could have avoided that maneuver?


18 posted on 09/11/2022 9:28:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Kazan
We also know that Russia is much better at deception than Ukraine and NATO.

LOL Every operation executed by Russia was detected by satellite, including the original attack in Feb.

There is one more salient fact–the Ukrainian offensive around Kharkov took place without any meaningful support from Ukrainian combat air or artillery.

The claim of no artillery support is hardly credible.

Russian armor and artillery systems also were not destroyed.

Those would be the ones not captured?

Ukraine has incurred horrendous casualties over the last two and a half weeks of combat. Russia and the militias have far fewer losses.

An army that's routed usually suffers far greater losses. More importantly, which the pro-Putin side seems to forget, is that even if hey took heavy casualties, the Ukrainians don't give a f---., something Russian geniuses haven't figured out despite the fact that it was very predictable based on post-WWII resistance.

Russia has not tapped into its trained military reserve. Ukraine has no trained military reserve left.

Those do not exist.

19 posted on 09/11/2022 9:29:11 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: wardaddy

And restored in most places several hours later. Like the Germans in WWII, the Ukrainians have gotten very good at marshalling repair resources.


20 posted on 09/11/2022 9:30:47 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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