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Ukraine's Offensive Continues, Russia Shows No Sign of Being Able to Stop It, Intriguing Rumors Abound
Red State ^ | 09/11/2022 | Streiff

Posted on 09/11/2022 8:26:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/11/2022 8:26:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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https://sonar21.com/knowing-what-we-know-knowing-what-we-dont-know-and-knowing-the-difference/

he Ukrainians and NATO know that most of the ground war is being fought by Donbas militias, but do not want to inform the public of that because it undercuts their propaganda campaign to make this “invasion” all about Russia.

We also know that Russia is much better at deception than Ukraine and NATO. Ukraine did nothing to hide its intent to launch an attack in the Kherson region and also signaled it would attack around Kharkov. Russia? Helped the Donbas militias reinforce their forces around Kherson (and successfully beat back the Ukrainian attack causing massive Ukrainian losses). Russia also leaked information that it was sending huge armor and artillery reinforcements towards Kherson as that offensive got underway when, in reality, it organized a tactical withdrawal from the region and redeployed forces south to Donetsk.

There is one more salient fact–the Ukrainian offensive around Kharkov took place without any meaningful support from Ukrainian combat air or artillery. Why is that important? That means the Russian air force–both fixed wing and rotary wing–is unscathed and intact. Russian armor and artillery systems also were not destroyed. If they ain’t destroyed they can still fight and the Ukrainian troops do not have a large reserve of armor and artillery to protect them.

Ukraine and the western media blithely ignore this fact and are celebrating the limited Ukrainian advance as if it were the reincarnation of the Nazi blitzkrieg into France.

One final fact to take into account. Ukraine has incurred horrendous casualties over the last two and a half weeks of combat. Russia and the militias have far fewer losses. Russia has not tapped into its trained military reserve. Ukraine has no trained military reserve left. So, for all of you arm chair generals out there second guessing Russia’s command decisions, please explain how Ukraine comes out on top? I look forward to your answers.

2 posted on 09/11/2022 8:36:51 PM PDT by Kazan
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[1943]

“Zhukov countered that the Germans would be drawn into a trap where their armoured power would be destroyed, thus creating the conditions for a major Soviet counteroffensive”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk


3 posted on 09/11/2022 8:42:22 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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The Ukrainians are advancing in areas across a river.

If the Russians take out the bridges, the Ukrainian troops may have their supply lines cut.

The Russians seem to be giving up territory too easily.


4 posted on 09/11/2022 8:43:25 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Kazan

The Russians are short on manpower and I’m beginning to think their military commanders aren’t very good.

But I do believe the Ukrainians are exposing themselves.

Previously, the Russians had to shell without accurate targeting information.


5 posted on 09/11/2022 8:48:07 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Kazan

The winning army is always the army retreating in disarray. 🙄. Just like their disastrous rout north of Kiev, the Russian military is conclusively demonstrating how poorly prepared and led it is. The only real question is when Putin will “resign” for health reasons. In the meantime, his military has played all its cards…poorly.


6 posted on 09/11/2022 8:48:53 PM PDT by Rokke
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If the Russians take out the bridges, the Ukrainian troops may have their supply lines cut.

Ukrainians have already crossed the river because it is shallow during this part of the year. People and vehicles have no trouble crossing it at any point, so it is not a defensive barrier for the Russkies.

The Russians seem to be giving up territory too easily.

Russian BS about this being a genius trap can be disproven just by one look at the massive amounts of ammo and heavy hardware being left behind. The Ukrainians have even recovered some of Russia's most advanced tanks, apparently abandoned because they were too slow.

7 posted on 09/11/2022 8:49:24 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Kazan

You wish!
Trying to put the Putin’s spin on these developments.
Face it, your side is loosing!
Slava Ukraine!


8 posted on 09/11/2022 9:00:26 PM PDT by AZJeep
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SlobberUkraine? LOL


9 posted on 09/11/2022 9:02:20 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/24/putins-speech-declaring-war-on-ukraine-translated-excerpts


10 posted on 09/11/2022 9:04:14 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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https://www.aljazeera.com/tag/ukraine-russia-crisis/


11 posted on 09/11/2022 9:06:10 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/11/russia-ukraine-war-list-of-key-events-day-200


12 posted on 09/11/2022 9:08:33 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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For months, Izyum was the planed base of the major Russian offensive, which should encircle and destroy the whole Ukrainian army in the East Ukraine.
At least all the trolls were feeding us this.
Somehow, that offensive never materialized.
Now, Russians lost Izyum.
But all that is the part of the genial Russian strategy!?
It is really hard to be Russian troll lately!😢


13 posted on 09/11/2022 9:13:29 PM PDT by AZJeep
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https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-11


14 posted on 09/11/2022 9:15:25 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin
Here are the Key Takeaways from the website you provied:

Key Takeaways



15 posted on 09/11/2022 9:17:59 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Nice work

Note half of Ukraine is now without power

Just like that

Limited war just got less limited


16 posted on 09/11/2022 9:19:54 PM PDT by wardaddy (If you are squishy about what’s going on you’re damn weak The water is still and on the wrong forums)
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“Russia has not tapped into its trained military reserve.”

That is a bald faced lie.


17 posted on 09/11/2022 9:25:20 PM PDT by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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What satellite/spyplane/electronic listening intelligence could 2022 America and NATO give to 1943 Germans so that they could have avoided that maneuver?


18 posted on 09/11/2022 9:28:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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We also know that Russia is much better at deception than Ukraine and NATO.

LOL Every operation executed by Russia was detected by satellite, including the original attack in Feb.

There is one more salient fact–the Ukrainian offensive around Kharkov took place without any meaningful support from Ukrainian combat air or artillery.

The claim of no artillery support is hardly credible.

Russian armor and artillery systems also were not destroyed.

Those would be the ones not captured?

Ukraine has incurred horrendous casualties over the last two and a half weeks of combat. Russia and the militias have far fewer losses.

An army that's routed usually suffers far greater losses. More importantly, which the pro-Putin side seems to forget, is that even if hey took heavy casualties, the Ukrainians don't give a f---., something Russian geniuses haven't figured out despite the fact that it was very predictable based on post-WWII resistance.

Russia has not tapped into its trained military reserve. Ukraine has no trained military reserve left.

Those do not exist.

19 posted on 09/11/2022 9:29:11 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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And restored in most places several hours later. Like the Germans in WWII, the Ukrainians have gotten very good at marshalling repair resources.


20 posted on 09/11/2022 9:30:47 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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