Gonna take something very high-profile to end this.
Posted on 09/01/2022 6:06:28 AM PDT by shortstop
Don’t ask, don’t tell.
That’s how gun owners and law-enforcement officers should approach New York’s unconstitutional new gun law.
I won’t tell you what I’m carrying, and don’t you ask me what I have.
We may be the targets of illegal oppression, but we don’t have to be
accomplices to it.
Beginning today, carrying handguns is prohibited almost everywhere in the state of New York. They can’t be carried on public property, and they can’t be carried on private property unless the owner or lessee posts a large sign declaring that they are welcome.
When you eliminate public property and private property, that’s all property, and the New York concealed carry permit becomes meaningless anywhere but in your home and in your car – unless it’s parked in a school, hospital or government parking lot, where it’s illegal.
Two months after the United States Supreme Court said Americans have a constitutional right to carry a firearm outside their home for self-defense, Democrat Gov. Kathy Hochul and her party have eliminated that right in New York.
And so it falls to New York gun owners to obey the Democrat law, and it falls to New York police officers to enforce it. I wonder if they will, and I wonder if they should.
I wonder where their consciences will come down.
I wonder what citizens will decide as they weigh the right to self-defense against the duty to be law abiding. I wonder what police officers will decide as they weigh the part of their oath obligating them to enforce the law against the part of their oath obligating them to obey the Constitution.
And I wonder what officers will decide as they consider that their spouses and parents are stripped of the ability to defend themselves in a violent world by this new law. And I wonder what they think as they realize that they are themselves one edited cellphone video away from losing their jobs and their own ability to carry a gun to defend their families.
The governor is demanding obedience to a law which she herself passed in violation of law. She will not obey the Supreme Court, but we must obey her? We are to ignore a constitutional amendment passed in 1791, but we must obey a law pulled out of her Democrat ass at the end of June?
Is that what New York’s deputies and troopers and officers are being ordered to enforce? They will arrest their neighbors and friends for that?
A woman with a pistol permit who carries a firearm for self-defense becomes a felon because she has her hidden handgun with her while she does her grocery shopping? Or while she jogs through a park? Or goes out to dinner?
Did New York’s police officers take up their profession to put people like that in the back seat of the car? Is that why they carry handcuffs? Has their time in law enforcement taught them that there is no need for New Yorkers to be able to defend themselves?
Is New York law that sacrosanct that it must always be obeyed? Like the April 1st legal mandate to pass a state budget? Or is it just the citizens who must obey it, not the politicians?
Like the federal immigration law, which New York openly flouts and which state officials have forbidden local law enforcement officers to assist in enforcing. In New York, when is the law the law, and if they get to decide when it isn’t, do we get to decide that, too?
The governor’s anti-gun law violates Article III, Amendment II and Amendment X of the United States Constitution. It ignores the primacy of the federal judiciary, it erases the right to bear arms, and it takes to the state a power reserved by the Constitution to the federal government. Her law is illegal.
And the people have to decide if they are going to obey it, and the police have to decide if they are going to enforce it.
That’s what free people and free societies do.
Obedience to law is a duty of citizenship, and Abraham Lincoln said it should be our national religion, taught by mothers to the children on their laps. But illegal law is not law, it is caprice, dictate and oppression.
People obey the law because it obeys them, it being of their creation. But when it fails to obey them, by violating their rights and ignoring their will, they are prone to disobey it.
And the dictator only rules as long as the people submit and the authorities enforce.
And New York will now learn to what extent they will.
Will the people be citizens or subjects, and will the law enforcement officers be cops or henchmen?
How hard is it for a cop to simply “not notice” a gun on an otherwise law abiding citizen? Believe it, there are a very high proportion of the “thin blue line” who are just foaming at the mouth to be able to enforce this clearly unconstitutional law.
Governor Hochul Announces New Concealed Carry Laws Passed in Response to Reckless Supreme Court Decision Take Effect September 1, 2022
Great! Obey me but not The US Supreme Court!
Governor Hochul’s extremism on guns will hopefully get some Dem gun owners upset, who knows in NY.
I use this example of “I was just doing my job” whenever that subject comes up. I retired from Pepsico about 10 years ago. Would I have been justified to sneak around and destroy Coke and other competitors displays and signage, or sabotage their delivery trucks if instructed to do so by my supervisors?
The issue and no Democratic leader seems to care is the complete lack of respect for the rule of law. Does that mean everyone gets to choose which laws to follow and which to disregard?
You are making the assumption that there is such a thing as a GOOD cop. I agree there are. However, stand up a line of 100 of them and YOU pick out the Dirty Ones.
That number will be between ZERO and 100. There is no way to tell until it’s too late.
I prefer to assume ALL are Dirty ALL the time. I start at 100 and work down based on actions not silly words like “back the blue” and other useless platitudes. Actions speak louder than words. As of late, their ACTIONS SUCK!!
Trust has been destroyed. Cops need to FIX their own ranks first.
The Soros DA's have bee doing this for over a decade.
Oh the cops there will enforce it. If anyone doesn’t think so they have not been paying attention. Most of the law and order cops retired or quit. What is left are lefty or power hungry cops.
I would bet you they won’t enforce it against the retired LEO’s who by default received carry permits before the Supreme Court ruling.
Gonna take something very high-profile to end this.
Many people are far less concerned (if they’ve thought about it all) with doing their job ethically and morally than they are about keeping their job: To hell with traditional, Judeo-Christian American values and patriotism if I might lose my job if I practice these anachronistic principles.
What about the thugs walking around with guns stuffed in their low hanging pants and who do not have a concealed carry license?
End-run around the second amendment.
The number one gun "crime" in New Jersey is possessing one without the permission of the almighty state. Carry permits are almost unobtainable if you're not among the "connected".
“I wonder where their consciences will come down.”
Their paychecks. It will come down to their paychecks, and they will choose them over you in a millisecond as they have always done.
Well, not if you are a white, straight male...
They get the book thrown at them.
Of course, I know you were joking... But like good satire, there's always a grain of truth that makes one think about it...
Exactly. If you believe that they will choose you over their house, their family, their children, their livelihoods, you are so F’n deluded you should seek psychiatric help immediately.
“Is that what New York’s deputies and troopers and officers are being ordered to enforce? They will arrest their neighbors and friends for that?”
They will do it in a New York Minute and laugh about it and not lose one second of sleep over it.
At my university I taught at the downstairs portion of our building had a large classroom they taught police officers...
This was some private company that was paid big bucks to teach enhanced law enforcement. They often made the point of the most important duty of the police was “To get to go home at the end of the shift”. Self-preservation, not the duty to protect and serve, became the mantra.
There’s no doubt in my mind that some police would much rather arrest some old grandma or woman than have to deal with an enraged, pumped up and drugged out minority male yout. The first is an easy collar, the latter could ensure you won’t go home...
They should no more need a license than should I or any other citizen. If you can't be trusted to be armed, you should not be running around loose.
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the constitution of the United States, and the constitution of the State of New York, and that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office of ____________________________________________________________ according to the best of my ability.They are therefore bound by oath or affirmation to ignore their governor's clearly unconstitutional dictates.
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