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That FBI Raid Isn’t Doing What Democrats Hoped it Would Do
Red State ^ | 08/18/2022 | Jeff Charles

Posted on 08/18/2022 9:41:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The FBI’s search of former President Donald Trump’s home is still a hot-button topic as the talking heads and politicos debate and speculate over the matter. But on the political stage, it does not appear to have made much of a splash so far.

One would think the fact that the FBI conducted a search of Trump’s home would do at least a modicum of political damage to Republican candidates – especially those linked to the former president. But the first poll taken after the raid shows that this is not quite the case.

An Emerson College poll conducted between August 15 and 16 revealed that in Ohio’s Senate race, Republican candidate J.D. Vance is still going strong in his race against Democrat Rep. Tim Ryan. From the report:

Both Vance and Ryan have strong bases of support, and the race tightens to a one-point lead for Vance among the very motivated and very likely voters in Ohio. Whereas Vance leads by a larger margin among somewhat likely and somewhat motivated voters.

While Vance leads Ryan in the ballot test, he trails his opponent on favorability; 50% have a very (27%) or somewhat (23%) favorable view of Vance whereas 54% have a very (33%) or somewhat (21%) favorable view of Ryan. Vance is also seen more unfavorably than Ryan; 41% have a somewhat (15%) or very (27%) unfavorable view of Vance, whereas 36% hold a somewhat (16%) or very (19%) unfavorable view of Ryan.

Voters were asked, regardless of whom they support, which candidate they expect to win. A majority of voters (52%) expect JD Vance to win, whereas 48% expect Tim Ryan to win.

OHIO US SENATE POLL@JDVance1 45%@TimRyan 42%
Someone else 4%
Undecided 10%


https://t.co/Wbn2Z7xuZF pic.twitter.com/eAk0oJ7GMD

— Emerson College Polling (@EmersonPolling) August 17, 2022

“Voters who are most concerned about the economy break for Vance over Ryan by a 35-point margin. On the other hand, those who say abortion access and healthcare break for Ryan over Vance by 83 and 66-point margins,” said Spencer Kimball, Executive Director of Emerson College polling.

But this isn’t even the most compelling statistic.

In the generic congressional ballot, Republicans in Ohio “hold a ten point lead over the Democrats, 51 percent to 41 percent,” according to the survey.

Moreover, in a hypothetical 2024 matchup between President Joe Biden and Trump, the former president leads with 53% to Biden’s 39%.

When asked about the impact of the raid on their decision to support Trump, 39% of respondents said it made them more likely to support Trump, while 35% said it made them less likely. About 27% said the raid made no difference when it came to their decision to support the former president.

When it comes to the issues Ohioans believe are most important, “Half of Ohio voters (50%) think the economy, including jobs, inflation, and taxes, is the most important issue facing Ohio, followed by abortion access (12%), healthcare (10%), crime (8%), and education (8%),” according to the poll.

This is only one poll so far, and with new developments in the case, attitudes could change depending on what the Bureau found when it searched Trump’s home. Nevertheless, the poll’s findings are noteworthy in that the information released so far has not been damning enough to cause Trump’s allies to take a hit.

At this point, it seems reasonable to speculate that this situation might not have the impact Democrats wish it would. They are still set to lose big in November, and barring some revelation showing that Trump sacrificed kittens and puppies to Baal in a secret shrine under Mar a Lago, it does not seem likely Democrats can use the raid for their purposes.



TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: democrats; doj; fbi; fbiakastasi; maralagoraid; panty; pantyraid; raid; trump

1 posted on 08/18/2022 9:41:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

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When it comes to prosecutions people don’t understand it starts with someone wanting to get a target.

For instance, John Durham is a fraud, he has no interest in raids.

On the other hand, if someone like Strzok was going after Biden on TV, Special counsel Durham would be questioning him the next day and sending a clear message while exploring new avenues to prosecute Strzok.

Strzok is on lying, saying he’s still investigating Trump, and Comey was marching with BLM and publicly endorsed Biden. They are untouchable.

That’s why Republicans are pursued for FARA, and Dems can do as they please.

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2 posted on 08/18/2022 9:56:02 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Lindsey Graham: How can anyone be Mad at Joe Biden)
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To: SeekAndFind; MinuteGal; M Kehoe

“When it comes to the issues Ohioans believe are most important, “Half of Ohio voters (50%) think the economy, including jobs, inflation, and taxes, is the most important issue facing Ohio, followed by abortion access (12%), healthcare (10%), crime (8%), and education (8%),” according to the poll.”

This puts the lie to what Tucker Carlson was saying tonight (thus irritating the heck out of me) about how immigration and crime are the two issues most upsetting to voters. Or they should be according to him.

He knocked Republicans about how they are arguing issues for the Mid-Term elections when I maintain he is as wrong as can be. The most important issue of all remains inflation and the price of gasoline as shown in the stats above. This inflation issue affects folks every day of their lives, visibly.

Immigration and crime doesn’t slap all of them up against the face as frequently as does the price of food and transportation every single day. Tucker knocked Doctor Oz’s commercial with him in the supermarket picking out veggies and saying how expensive they have become. Oz is right for highlighting this; Tucker made fun of Oz and was very wrong to do so.

Tucker at heart is a Libertarian, and periodically it comes out in his commentary big-time. This was one of those times, and it is really bugging me as he has been doing this lately, slamming the Pubs for “technique” right as the elections approach. Whatever issue(s) Tucker thinks are most important to the people, his tearing down the Pubs at this point in time rather than going after the Dems tooth and tong is wrong.

This is not the time to so vocally take issue with the Pub Party, whatever their warts, unless Tucker (and all of us) want to make it a much more fertile ground for the Dems to score points and do better at the polling booths. Tucker should keep his Libertarian trap shut at this point in time, rather than helping to bring on the very election results he purports to want to prevent, namely the Dems remaining in power.

Stuff it Tucker until after the elections with your Pub negativity, not before. The continuous desire of Libertarians to want to have heir third party win elections any time soon is a wet dream. Don’t help the Dems win by damping down the enthusiasm of the voters with logic and rationalism on their side, by muddying the waters with negative and unnecessary slamming of the only Party that will save conservatives and all of us from the jaws of doom.

And I’m tired of having talk show hosts pounce on each biased, slanted to the Dems polls that turn up with great regularity now. The MSM will churn out many polls from this point on up until the elections, that will show bogus election numbers and thus show an alleged close tightening of the race between Pubs and Dems. They do this every election cycle.

The MSM will show the numbers tightening to a neck and neck tie or show the Dems leading (all phony and concocted by how the polls weight the numbers and slant the poll questions). Yet Tucker seized on one poll’s set of poll results, while still relatively early in the election cycle before voters actually focus on the races in their states, to make up his commentary du jour. Thus getting in his obligatory slam against Pubs that seizes him periodically, probably to show how even handed he is being politically or to push his Libertarian bent upon us.

And another thing, stop pushing the Pubs to make wild promises about how they are going to radically change things when they get back in power until after the mid-terms. Steve Miller was pushing this on Tucker’s show tonight, along with Tucker. Biden will still be President, sitting there with his veto pen, ability to make rules and regulations, and to institute border policy. We still will have trouble making large changes in policies while Biden’s regime is still in control of the Executive branch of gov’t. Then the people will turn on Pubs for not being able to carry through on all of their agenda.

The Pubs can’t make false promises about all that they will do if they win, if they won’t be able to accomplish all of their agenda once in office. False claims will just make them look ineffective and thus bad to the public for over-promising. And if the Pubs threaten to shut down the gov’t fiscally in order to achieve their goals when in control of one or both Houses of Congress, we all know how that turns out. The Media goes into high gear, Pubs are blamed for any financial repercussions that may ensue, whether true or not, and once again we are the ogres. It is a fine line that the Pubs must walk right now verbally, and Tucker yapping from the sidelines against them is not helping here at all.

Advice to Tucker Carlson (whom I still love): as Archie Bunker was wont to say, Stifle it, Edith.


3 posted on 08/18/2022 10:58:24 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Trump should announce 2024 run now, pre-indictment by Dems; change the Jan 6 narrative)
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To: flaglady47

heir = their above. Typo.


4 posted on 08/18/2022 11:14:44 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Trump should announce 2024 run now, pre-indictment by Dems; change the Jan 6 narrative)
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To: flaglady47

I think illegal immigration is one of the top issues for border states close to Mexico. Ohio isn’t close to Mexico so I’m not surprised that abortion access is more important than illegal immigration to Ohio voters.


5 posted on 08/18/2022 11:15:14 PM PDT by convoter2016
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To: flaglady47

Your post should be it’s own thread.


6 posted on 08/18/2022 11:20:51 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Lazamataz

“Your post should be it’s own thread.”

LOL, I was on a roll. That’s what happens when I get aggravated. Thoughts just pour out of my typing fingers. Good thing I can type as fast as my mind spills words out.


7 posted on 08/18/2022 11:28:54 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Trump should announce 2024 run now, pre-indictment by Dems; change the Jan 6 narrative)
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To: flaglady47

I’m serious. I’d work with you to make it refined if you want.


8 posted on 08/18/2022 11:30:43 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Lazamataz; MinuteGal; M Kehoe

“I’m serious. I’d work with you to make it refined if you want.”

Thank you for your kind words. I have no idea how to make a thread. And your offer of help to refine it is flattering. If you want to post this as a refined thread of it’s own, giving me some credit of course, lol, feel free to do so; you have my permission. I would most appreciate it.


9 posted on 08/18/2022 11:57:04 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Trump should announce 2024 run now, pre-indictment by Dems; change the Jan 6 narrative)
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To: SeekAndFind

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10 posted on 08/19/2022 2:41:25 AM PDT by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: AnthonySoprano

Democrats are LAW-LESS because Republicans are BALL-LESS!!!


11 posted on 08/19/2022 3:08:52 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the sgod of Convenience.)
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To: flaglady47

I missed Tucker’s show tonight( power outage) so I’m not clear what upset you.
Tucker is a ‘must watch’ in our family.
I’m not saying he is infallible…….but he gets more right than wrong, imo

But Stephen Miller, to me, is always ‘spot on’….
…and if he makes a promise, he keeps it!


12 posted on 08/19/2022 3:40:12 AM PDT by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: SeekAndFind
At this point, it seems reasonable to speculate that this situation might not have the impact Democrats wish it would.

To me, it is getting to the point that a slew of Democrats all feel free to take pot shots at Trump. Could some of these be the same FBI agents who participated in the Russia hoax and more?

They are like John Hinckley who attempted to assassinate President Reagan to impress some actress.

These Democrats are nobodies who think that they can become somebody if they can take down President Trump.

I am tired of it.

13 posted on 08/19/2022 5:03:20 AM PDT by olezip
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To: SeekAndFind

Good news.


14 posted on 08/19/2022 8:32:49 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
No, it's doing exactly what it was intended to do -- keep their rank-and-file stooges on their side and motivated.

15 posted on 08/19/2022 9:40:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Then again it’s always fun to watch the Morning Joe sycophants get their hopes up that “THIS TIME TRUMP IS TOAST AND HIS BASE IS LEAVING HIM.”

LOL...

Makes it more fun when our guys win their races...(in spite of liberal pollsters assuring liberals that THIS TIME, REALLY AND TRULY, it’d different - THEY’LL LOSE...

Enjoy


16 posted on 08/19/2022 10:00:24 AM PDT by GOPJ (The “threat to democracy” is shorthand for a threat to Democrats. -- Daniel Greenfield)
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