Posted on 08/18/2022 7:11:55 AM PDT by ProfessorGoldiloxx
Priceless.
“There are female dwarves with beards. Yep, they have trans-dwarves.”
They aren’t trans-dwarves. Dwarvish women ALL have beards. That’s their natural state, as specified by Tolkien himself.
Black dwarves, not so much.
I cannot say that LOTR was as good as the books, but there are moments in the films that make them worthwhile, IMO. Sometimes a visual and audio depiction of something can add a thrill of its own, rather like a painting. Moments in LOTR that I think of are Gandalf's return as Gandalf the White in the Two Towers and Gandalf arriving with the Riders of Rohan at Helm's Deep in the same film. The shots are so beautifully composed, they are worth seeing. There were things I did not like, such as Viggo Mortensen's moody Aragorn (though I do like him as an actor). As adaptations go, it was much more faithful to the novel than I expected.
The Hobbit on the other hand, was a bloated mess. I barely made it through those films.
As others have pointed out on this thread, the images the reader forms while reading something never match the film images. I don’t like the discrepancy, so I don’t watch the film. I don’t doubt that the LOTR films contain beautiful shots, but I choose not to see them.
I’ve already seen a docu-drama about Queen Elizabeth I on the BBC which cast a black man as head of her privy counsel, and an Asian woman as one of her ladies in waiting.
Or I should say, “saw the first 10 minutes.” That was as long as I could hold out before running to the bathroom to projectile vomit.
Or better still, make the slaves white and the slave owners black, ala "Hamilton".
lol too funny!
that’s EXACTLY the reason I have started watching Boolywood and Korean shows!
It’s so refreshing to just be entertained and not feel like someone is trying to push an agenda.
"We wuz kangz wit rangz!"
I like it. 👍
Because if it's not sauce for the gander, neither is it fit for the goose.
Bollywood films are great, the plot is always original, they don't do comic book heroes, and they never take themselves too seriously (except maybe in Rom-Coms). But those random dance sequences that pop up three or four times in every film take some getting used to.
I wish Jackson would have had Tom Bombadil in the trilogy. God knows what the woke world would have made of him.
Yes the entire Lothlorien sequence was well done/. I remember being disappointed when I saw the film in the theater and the the gifts of Galadriel were left out but I was pleased to them in the extended version. I haven’t watched the trilogy on Blu-ray for several years. Maybe it is time to do so soon.
They recently had a black Anne Boleyn on Henry VIII.
I thought that the hobbit films could be whittled down to one good one
The LOTR movies- there was even some GREAT scenes they left out- like this extedned scene at mordors gate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EVNVMzN634
Agreed. Way too much pointless filler that takes away from the story.
*mic drop*
Perfect!
You win the thread!
Transgress audience expectation and criticism and weak box office or viewership ensue. Or, hit the mark as to what an established audience wants and success usually follows.
Consider, for example, The Hunt for Red October, The Road to Perdition, Blade Runner, Game of Thrones, and The Walking Dead as productions that were highly successful in large part because they were faithful to the original work.
Maybe Bollywood could produce versions of those that would be successful in that cultural sphere, but they would all be doomed to fail commercially outside of it. And would anyone think well of woke, diversity rich versions of The Walking Dead with zombies and the survivors doing Bollywood style song and dance numbers, Game of Thrones with Italian opera stars doing arias, or The Hunt for Red October with black actors as the Russian sub officers and crew?
My surmise is that like George Lucas, Peter Jackson has had so much success that he escaped not just the movie industry's constraints of budget, studio control, and attention to audience expectations but also plain good sense. Then again, maybe the world is secretly aching for a big dose of wokeism with a Kiwi flair. We shall see soon enough if fantasy will be not just the genre but also the dominant aspect of Peter Jackson's thinking as a film maker.
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