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More reflections on the Mar-A-Lago raid: Trump as an illegitimate president
TheNewNeo.com ^ | 8-13-2022 | Neo

Posted on 08/15/2022 12:49:09 PM PDT by servo1969

One thing the Mar-A-Lago raid has driven home is that the left truly believes - and they think much of the general public will agree - that what ordinarily would be allowed most presidents and ex-presidents is not to be allowed to Trump. That is because they think and have always thought that he was an illegitimate president with no right to hold that office.

It doesn't matter which reasoning they use to explain that point of view: he's too uncouth, he's stupid, he's a clown, he's beneath us, he's a Russian puppet, he's a racist, he wears a MAGA hat, he didn't get the popular vote, Russian disinformation enabled his win - the bottom line is that they think he wasn't a real president and shouldn't be treated as one.

He has possession of classified documents? Indict him under an act that is virtually never used as a criminal statute (except in rare cases, and then involving a misdemeanor), and absolutely never used against a president or ex-president - because he really wasn't a real president and therefore he's not a real ex-president either.

Spy on him. Lie about him. Frame him. Shame him. Do whatever is necessary.

Get a search warrant so general that it allows you to search his entire residence and confiscate every bit of paper you find that has anything to do with his bogus non-presidential "presidential" years. Probable cause? Don't tell the American people what you cited as the probable cause, because the probable cause is actually that the illegitimate Trump deserves no respect and deserves everything bad that's coming to him.

And they know that half of America will agree and applaud them.

Oh, and the goal was never to get the documents for the documents' sake. They knew the documents were not at all at risk. The goal was to get evidence to get Trump, period. What was it Schumer said? Oh yeah - and he said it seventeen days before Trump's inauguration:

"Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community -- they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you."

Is there any doubt whatsoever that the Mar-A-Lago raid is that intelligence community (and the left) "getting back" at Trump, for the umpteenth time?

Just to take one example of the attitude being expressed by the left, this is from Yahoo News:

One factor that McCord (Mary McCord, national security lawyer under Obama) suggested would be on the minds of DOJ national security lawyers is what Trump might have done with the highly classified material that was still believed to be at Mar-a-Lago. "Are we worried that some of this information would actually be shared outside of Mar-a-Lago, potentially with foreign adversaries? I'd be really concerned about that," she said.

Yes, we all know how soft Trump was on our foreign adversaries, as opposed to previous tough-guy Obama and current tough-guy Biden. The left keeps peddling this preposterous dreck, the MSM keeps dutifully and uncritically spinning it back to the public, and half the country nods and says, "Yes, that's just what he was probably going to do."

On this blog, commenter "Greg Hlatky" remarked:

You are watching the Ruling Class lose its collective mind over a man who has not been in office for more than a year and a half, didn't take his salary when President and likely isn't drawing a pension. Unless Trump is just a MacGuffin.

Trump isn't just a MacGuffin, but he is at least partly a symbol. Sarah Palin was a similar symbol before him, but because she never was elected VP, the focus on her faded. Trump would have faded, too, if he had lost the 2016 election. His winning and becoming president was the outrage that cannot be forgiven, ever. They could not believe it happened, and they think he must be prevented from ever winning again or ever taking a position of any kind of political power.

Not just Trump, though; any Republican who isn't part of the genteel NeverTrumper club must never take power. Any Republican who might really be serious about stopping them and especially about draining the so-called swamp cannot have any power. It is a deadly serious game and they are determined to win.

Trump himself said, and he was correct: "They're not after me, they're after you - I'm just in the way."


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: creepstate; deepstate; doj; fbi; maralago; maralagoraid; neo; policestate; raid; singlepartystate; trump
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1 posted on 08/15/2022 12:49:09 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

(Spy on him. Lie about him. Frame him. Shame him. Do whatever is necessary)

Ever since Hillary’s skullduggery and the manufactured “dossier”.


2 posted on 08/15/2022 12:52:11 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: servo1969

It is actually pretty simple; the federal bureaucracy considers representative government to be illegitimate.

Federal bureaucrats believe they ARE the government.


3 posted on 08/15/2022 12:53:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (“A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within." --WD)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I believe you are correct.


4 posted on 08/15/2022 12:59:16 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Just like Imperial China. Emperors and dynasties come and go, but the bureaucracy is forever.


5 posted on 08/15/2022 1:02:09 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: In_Iowa_not_from

Closing ranks.


6 posted on 08/15/2022 1:03:18 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: servo1969

Obama is not a natural born citizen and the true illegitimate President who is orchestrating all of this against Trump.


7 posted on 08/15/2022 1:03:48 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SaveFerris

Trump won a Pyrrhic victory over Hillary. He may have won the battle but has been bleeding from many wounds while Hillary is safely ensconced in her castle and apparently has no ill effects from the fight against Trump.


8 posted on 08/15/2022 1:08:05 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: servo1969

> And they know that half of America will agree and applaud them.

They’re in the teens approval wise and dropping. The whole premise of this article is garbage.


9 posted on 08/15/2022 1:08:12 PM PDT by No.6
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To: servo1969

They could not believe it happened, and they think he must be prevented from ever winning again or ever taking a position of any kind of political power.
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We were never supposed to be able to elect a President who would stop the Bush Plan for North Mexico (aka USA).

The main purpose of the GOP since 1989 has been to block the citizens from stopping it by only allowing us to to vote for open borders/amnesty candidates.

Both parties have spent 30 years altering the demographics of the country against the will of the citizens.


10 posted on 08/15/2022 1:08:40 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: 353FMG

True


11 posted on 08/15/2022 1:09:48 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: servo1969

Trump was the best damn illegal president in the modern era./s


12 posted on 08/15/2022 1:11:27 PM PDT by Leep (Hillary will NEVER be president! 😁)
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To: servo1969

It is not that they hate DJTrump, they fear him. He’s from out of town, already rich, used to dealing with corrupt people and still get the job done, and he owes nothing to either party or DC.

They will assassinate him (like the Bernie supporter tried at the ball game) before they will surrender their power to him.

His “uncouth” behavior is why I love him. He pisses off all the people whom I have always hated.


13 posted on 08/15/2022 1:11:42 PM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They are more evolved than us sub-humans.


14 posted on 08/15/2022 1:13:47 PM PDT by bray (The Vax is fake and deadly)
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To: bobbo666

I agree with your entire post.


15 posted on 08/15/2022 1:14:04 PM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: SaveFerris

Who would have ever thought the Hillary’s crude manufactured dossier would take 3 years to disprove as a hoax, and no one would face any real ramifications to this documented deceit? Some people should have served some real serious time for this.

At some point, there must be consequences!


16 posted on 08/15/2022 1:16:23 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: servo1969

It was a full-fledged insurrection against a sitting president and none of the treasonous criminals paid any price.

That has to change.


17 posted on 08/15/2022 1:17:34 PM PDT by fwdude (Racism is not dead, but it is on life support - kept alive by politicians….” — Thomas Sowell)
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To: fwdude

This is Bill Clinton and Obama’s FBI. There may have been appointments made by Trump and GWB, but they didn’t fire people.


18 posted on 08/15/2022 1:19:09 PM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: 353FMG

Except for being completely unelectable.


19 posted on 08/15/2022 1:20:42 PM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher )
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To: TakebackGOP

The FBI is just the business end of a very large government cabal.


20 posted on 08/15/2022 1:20:44 PM PDT by fwdude (Racism is not dead, but it is on life support - kept alive by politicians….” — Thomas Sowell)
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