Article V and Rational Revolution (2018)

Article V Blog ^ | February 19th 2018 | Rodney Dodsworth

[Political Junkie Too]

there is NOTHING to stop the ensuing proceedings to change the original charter/purpose/goal.

So you believe that 38 states are ready to throw out the Constitution and adopt a new progressive one?

I ask because a convention can't do anything more than PROPOSE amendments; they can't pass anything into law.

-PJ

[Jacquerie]

If you wish to relinquish your sovereignty to Scotus and the Deep State, that is up to you. I work to keep mine.

[Erik Latranyi]

So you believe that 38 states are ready to throw out the Constitution and adopt a new progressive one? I ask because a convention can't do anything more than PROPOSE amendments; they can't pass anything into law.

Yes, and the left, along with spineless RINOs, would not alter that process to their benefit, would they?

[Political Junkie Too]

I know it's a daunting task, but which 38 states are ready to go full-on progressive, if the state laws in reaction to overturning Roe v Wade is any guide?

I will give you this much: Congress can really try to muck things up by forcing the convention method of ratification on each of the proposed amendments, bypassing the simpler state legislature method.

Separate state ratifying conventions on an amendment-by-amendment basis could really become a chaotic endeavor.

-PJ

[Nateman]

...Not one Article V proponent can explain in specificity exactly how it cannot be hijacked once convened, period.

The call for the Convention has a clause that removes that call if the Convention goes beyond the boundaries of the call. In over 200 years this part of the Constitution has not been used and therefore would not only attract National attention but the whole world would be watching.

If it broke its own contract before the whole world there would be no way to hide it. Any of the Amendments proposed would face immense opposition because of the well known violation of its own rules . It is doubtful you could get 3/4's of the states to ratify anything under such conditions and the people actually picked to be the reps would know that.

[wita]

Amen Gaffer.

COS and Jacq would have you me and the world believe that nothing can go wrong in Convention. My experience my knowledge and reality itself will tell anyone with half their brain tied behind their back just to make it fair, that such mental gymnastics in the global woke world of today much less a world of reality, is stinkin thinkin.

Insanity is alive and well in the minds of those people pushing Article V as a solution to what ails the United States of America. I’m going to call many of them well meaning people that ought to find a more realistic solution to our problems related to an out of control Congress, Executive Branch and the Black Robed Judges in the Supreme Court.

[wita]

Typical inane COS response. Fortunately there are sufficient right thinking Legislatures that aren’t buying the COS mantra, that I will predict COS will spend more and more millions in a failed effort to get Congress to willingly agree to a Convention that will be against every principle “We the People” hold dear.

[wita]

My sovereignty is in the hands of a Governor and State Legislature, and if they are stupid enough to jeopardize the State Sovereignty buying into the COS insanity they are ignorant idiots. Fortunately there are State Legislators unwilling to bow to the bribery of COS.

[Gaffer]

Show me where it grants authority to "change the original charter/purpose/goal." Show me where is DOES NOT. It only explains the numbers of states legislatures required to call for a convention and pass any amendments that may arise from the convention. This, Article V, is the only controlling legal authority on this rarely used (in the sense of Constitutional) method. No proposal document, goal or other calling notice that may be issued to actually start a convention is. It is only the hopes, good will, and faith the process might work out as intended. I say that it is extremely naive to believe that a massive colluding army of leftist plants, opportunists, demonstrators, media and other world forces about be arrayed to subvert the process. Denigrate and belittle me all you want. You seem to be good at it. But I am not willing to go down that Pollyanna road of thinking we can 'fix' everything in the Constitution and stop leftism with this.

[Gaffer]

You may want to trust the intentions and likely actions of other states legislatures, politicians and delegates, but I am not. Not when I see the likes of Cheney, Collins, Murkowski, Romney and crew and even here in my own state of Georgia with my own Governor and Secretary of State.

What we need is a Supreme Court that can read the Constitution and apply its dictates, period. They don’t need to think how it should ‘evolve’ and we don’t need it to consider other word legal systems and documents. Just the one.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Never heard of enumerated powers Mr. Constitutional Scholar?

[Gaffer]

Sheesh...... I know I can read and I know what enumerated powers. Your problem is that you’re reading all sorts of things into that one short paragraph that aren’t there. It certainly doesn’t help by your being a pompous, name-calling zealot.